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    <title>topic Re: how to add duct in CFD - case study problem  - please help in CFD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4716477"&gt;@eng.youssefezzat88&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If i may,&amp;nbsp; i notice few things here :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1. Supress the pressure BC at you intlet and only keep the flow rate BC. You can not have both.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2. Add more mesh on your aluminium duct&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="intlet mesh.JPG" style="width: 557px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524421i1515DE85532BF9A4/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="intlet mesh.JPG" alt="intlet mesh.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3. extend your outlet toward where the pressure is applied (the length should be 10 time the diameter) it will avoid recirculation. You should have a long cylinder leaving your model.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4. If you want to consider heat transfert dont forget to assign a initial temperature&amp;nbsp;otherwise uncheck heat transfert. it will solve the solution faster.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In the other thread i said ''the boundary condition should be outside the model''. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If you want to work with your original design you can suppress your duct and add a flow rate on ''&lt;EM&gt;the surface recently created&lt;/EM&gt;''. This way your BC will be outside the model. By doing this you will not allowed to simulate the heat transfered to the duct (the internal part is supress)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hope it helps&lt;BR /&gt;Fred&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 20:25:46 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>frederic.gaillard.7</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-07-18T20:25:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>how to add duct in CFD - case study problem  - please help</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/cfd-forum/how-to-add-duct-in-cfd-case-study-problem-please-help/m-p/8139471#M9466</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am Autodesk CFD bargainer , i studied&amp;nbsp; the&amp;nbsp; base skills as well as the tutorials .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While trying&amp;nbsp;to model duct from outside the from to inside, the output does not show in flow inside the duct .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;please correct my steps please as show in below pictures&amp;nbsp;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;find also the attached model(CFZ file )&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;model duct in Revit .&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;export the model in Sat format .&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;void fill for the exhaust point .&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Assigned materials .&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;the duct material &amp;nbsp;( &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;AL ) , also I noted the duct become many parts.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Assigned Boundary condition for supply and exhaust .&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;But no flow in the room&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="1-	model duct in Rivet" style="width: 935px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524394i60EDE2AF5FA1BA3F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="1-Revit.JPG" alt="1-	model duct in Rivet" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;1-	model duct in Rivet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="export the model in Sat format ." style="width: 896px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524395i6AD922209BC4FCF2/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="2-export revit.jpg" alt="export the model in Sat format ." /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;export the model in Sat format .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="3-	void fill for the exhaust point" style="width: 760px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524396iA950587FB336E372/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="3-exhaust void fill.JPG" alt="3-	void fill for the exhaust point" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;3-	void fill for the exhaust point&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="noted the duct become many parts" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524397i51070DB9013BEDDF/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="4-duct become many parts.JPG" alt="noted the duct become many parts" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;noted the duct become many parts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Assigned materials" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524398i43883695192DB516/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="3-duct material is AL.JPG" alt="Assigned materials" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Assigned materials&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BC1" style="width: 839px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524400i444F1FC78C2C2CFB/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="5-BC 1.JPG" alt="BC1" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;BC1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BC2" style="width: 915px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524399iD32E08AAC7DF165F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="6-BC2.JPG" alt="BC2" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;BC2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Assigned materials air for this Vol." style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524401i719FA5F88A3079FB/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="voulum is air.JPG" alt="Assigned materials air for this Vol." /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Assigned materials air for this Vol.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="no flow in duct" style="width: 791px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524402i658329C54F9A7135/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="no flow in the duct.JPG" alt="no flow in duct" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;no flow in duct&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 19:33:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>eng.youssefezzat88</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-18T19:33:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: how to add duct in CFD - case study problem  - please help</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/cfd-forum/how-to-add-duct-in-cfd-case-study-problem-please-help/m-p/8139638#M9467</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4716477"&gt;@eng.youssefezzat88&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If i may,&amp;nbsp; i notice few things here :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1. Supress the pressure BC at you intlet and only keep the flow rate BC. You can not have both.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2. Add more mesh on your aluminium duct&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="intlet mesh.JPG" style="width: 557px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/524421i1515DE85532BF9A4/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="intlet mesh.JPG" alt="intlet mesh.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3. extend your outlet toward where the pressure is applied (the length should be 10 time the diameter) it will avoid recirculation. You should have a long cylinder leaving your model.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4. If you want to consider heat transfert dont forget to assign a initial temperature&amp;nbsp;otherwise uncheck heat transfert. it will solve the solution faster.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In the other thread i said ''the boundary condition should be outside the model''. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If you want to work with your original design you can suppress your duct and add a flow rate on ''&lt;EM&gt;the surface recently created&lt;/EM&gt;''. This way your BC will be outside the model. By doing this you will not allowed to simulate the heat transfered to the duct (the internal part is supress)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hope it helps&lt;BR /&gt;Fred&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 20:25:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/cfd-forum/how-to-add-duct-in-cfd-case-study-problem-please-help/m-p/8139638#M9467</guid>
      <dc:creator>frederic.gaillard.7</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-18T20:25:46Z</dc:date>
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