topic Re: additions for Object Data in AutoCAD Map 3D Forum

additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 02:44:32 GMT

As a task manager, I created for myself such additions for Object Data:
- OD management
   - Copy definitions from file
   - usage stats
   - Rename columns
   - Reorder fields
   - Update definitions
   - Batch update definitions
   - Remove unused
- Search OD
   - Find entities with no OD
   - Find entities with OD
   - Find entities with duplicate OD
   - Find entities with multiple OD
   - Find entities with no specific OD
   - Find entities with specific OD
   - Find entities with specific OD values
- Attach/Detach OD
   - Attach/detach
   - Detach all
   - Detach specified
   - Detach duplicate
- Copy OD
   - Copy OD from reference
   - Copy values from reference
   - Copy properties/OD from reference
   - Copy properties/OD values from reference
- Set/edit OD values
   - Set values from XYZ
   - Set values from geometric properties
   - Set values from text
   - Create IDs
   - Replace values
   - Values from field in field
- Modify entities
   - Convert to 2D polylines
   - Convert to 3D polylines
   - Break
- Import /export
   - Export to mif/mid
   - Batch export to mif/mid
   - Export to csv
   - Import from csv
- - OD table

A small example recently posted on the forum: statistics about OD, viewing OD in the table, finding elements without the specified OD, attaching these elements to the required OD.

This list corresponds to the wishes and ideas from this forum: MAP New features - 01 - Improvments on Object Data, http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-map-3d-general/object-data-how-to-use-the-find-command/td-p/54... etc.

But the list is longer. The necessity of these possibilities is confirmed by daily use - they greatly accelerate, simplify and improve the work.

What other advanced features of working with Object Data may be needed?
For example, add a drawing with the Object Data on the sample of the specified existing object. Import/export in kml/kmz, geojson. What else?

The resulting plugin could be a prototype for Autodesk add-ons for Object Data.
We could gather such additions to the forum participants, and offer as a general idea from many experienced users.

Re: additions for Object Data

braudpat — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:23:43 GMT

Hello Alexander

I have a Dream and You have a Dream !

Regards, Patrice

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:08:25 GMT

, Patrice!

Ich stehe hier, Sie shehen dort, und wir koennen nicht anders!

It seems to me that recently on the forum more often than usual questions about Object Data?

Re: additions for Object Data

braudpat — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 22:17:52 GMT

Hello Friend

I have forgotten the most important: Autodesk has no dream about ACAD MAP !

I am sad, Regards, Patrice

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:09:27 GMT

Hypothesis: Autodesk almost does not support Map 3D, because Map 3D has relatively few licenses.

I. Cartographic problems can be conditionally divided into two groups:
1. the task of creating maps,
2. tasks of using maps.
Autodesk weakly, insufficiently solved the first task. These are tools for drawing, collecting characteristics - Object (Feature) classes, Object Data.
And quite well decided the second task. Those. GIS tools - FDO, sdf, etc.

II. As a result, Map 3D has relatively few licenses; GIS users are relatively few at all. And there are other powerful GIS software.

III. Users of AutoCAD, drawing, collecting data on the order of magnitude more. Probably, in Autodesk it was considered that Civil will serve for this purpose. But Civil also does not contain sufficient, convenient tools for drawing maps, to determine the characteristics of objects.

Map 3D can have many more licenses, users, if Autodesk completes the tools for drawing, collecting characteristics. The same Object (Feature) classes, Object Data.

The most surprising and paradoxical fact is that the completion of these tools requires insignificant efforts, compared with GIS software. But Autodesk is too busy racing in the "sky-high technology" to provide routine processes?

It looks like Autodesk himself brought the situation with Map 3D to a stagnation.

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:58:17 GMT

So Autodesk as far back as 2006-2008 could make extended Object Data tools.
In my version in Youtube::

OD management

OD table

Search OD

... etc.

There are English subtitles.

Re: additions for Object Data

O_Eckmann — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:58:02 GMT

Hi Alexander,

very interesting, but video in youtube are the same (OD edit table) for 2 first link. OD Management is same video as OD Edit Table

Olivier

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:13:06 GMT

Thank you, Oliver!

Video on YouTube about my additional commands for Object Data from Post 1.

There are English subtitles:

OD table

All commands with a selection of objects use both a preliminary and subsequent selection.
All commands "do not see" topological OD - CNTR_..., TPM... etc.

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 03:54:23 GMT

Let's be optimistic! 🙂

I decided to place a free demo-version ODEDIT.

I place it in the cloud storage disk.yandex.ru, later I'll try in Autodesk App Store. There is no advertising there.
32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/HliPBDWH3RQqxthttps://yadi.sk/d/HliPBDWH3RQqxthttps://yadi.sk/d/HliPBDWH3RQqxt
64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/IoJPXSt53RQtA3

The ODEDIT window is loaded by the ODEDIT_CTL command.

In the demo version of ODEDIT several commands from OD management and Export/import are disabled, but most of the commands are left, and they function completely.

First for AutoCAD Map 3D 2011-12. Later I will try to persuade the programmer to make for the new versions.

After closing AutoCAD, you may receive error messages. But only after. This does not interfere the work in AutoCAD. Due to insufficient details of the documentation on Map 3D.

Any criticism in any aspects is welcome. 🙂

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:55:34 GMT

Changed links for ODEDIT_2011-12

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/vY_crCj63RWTNX

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/IoJPXSt53RQtA3

Added for ODEDIT_2013-14

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/86nVxbsr3RWTMv

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/X0P_tQD83RWTKz

Re: additions for Object Data

berson.guillaume — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 06:50:33 GMT

Hi,

I'm not sure to understand. Is it a program you are selling ?

Thanks !

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:18:34 GMT

Hi,

This is a free version. All commands are fully functional.

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:52:00 GMT

Sorry for the changed links - these versions better. Does not appear to error messages after you close Autocad.

ODEDIT_2011-12

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/4LyaWPjc3RYQ4g

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/Eu5uzEU-3RYQ4z

ODEDIT_2013-14

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/o4oW74uj3RYQ5H

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/aulomj5n3RYQ5R

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:23:23 GMT

This version is better:

ODEDIT_2011-12

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/N3SRikqd3SUcqr

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/w6YQh9gb3SUcqm

ODEDIT_2013-14

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/fAkFcxn43SUcqj

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/1mKnFy5H3SUcqi

ODEDIT_2015-16

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/npGbM0BQ3SUcqg

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/NGGlKz5C3SUcqb

ODEDIT_description_en.pdf - https://yadi.sk/i/q7Xbeijp3SUeVM

ODEDIT_description_en.htm - https://yadi.sk/d/Uw686-cf3SUeVU

Re: additions for Object Data

O_Eckmann — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:22:52 GMT

Hi Alexander,

Windows Defender (Windows 10 Pro 1709) detectes your 64bit ARX for 2015-2016 as a trojan :

trojan:win32/spursint.f!cl

Olivier

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:04:48 GMT

@olivier.eckmann wrote:

Hi Alexander,

Windows Defender (Windows 10 Pro 1709) detectes your 64bit ARX for 2015-2016 as a trojan :

trojan:win32/spursint.f!cl

Olivier

😞

Thank you... I will investigate ...

I downloaded from a home computer.
Try this option:https://yadi.sk/d/BZm2wwhA3SaTha

I hope that this is a false detection - with many exe, archives, etc. it happens.

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 01:30:45 GMT

Hi, Oliver,

While I checked in https://www.virustotal.com/#/home/upload

"No engines detected this file".
65 "Clean".

Re: additions for Object Data

O_Eckmann — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 07:40:32 GMT

Hi Alexander,

I've added exception in Virus Defender. This is what I obtain by default before exception.

It's a positif false, perhaps from my french version.

I'll test your development. Thanks

Olivier

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:58:06 GMT

Hi, Oliver,

I was answered with Yandex.Disk, where these arx are, that they are sure of the purity of my arx.

Re: additions for Object Data

АлексЮстасу — Sun, 04 Mar 2018 13:57:07 GMT

Hi, Oliver,

Opinion about this "virus" of the Autodesk Developer Network (ADN) administrator http://adn-cis.org/forum/index.php?topic=8316.15:

"... I think it was a false reaction."

This version is even better. Added 2018.
All OD lists in ODEDIT windows display only user’s OD, only used OD and from them OD, attached to selected graphic elements. OD created by Map 3D (CNTR_..., TPMCNTR_..., etc.) are ignored.
The selection of only used OD demands a long period of time by larger number of graphic elements. To accelerate the work this selection is automatically disabled when the number of elements tops 32768.

ODEDIT_2011-12

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/r0r9Pn7F3SvRWs

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/u5mCkX5K3SvRWu

ODEDIT_2013-14

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/ln5JZQa33SvRX3

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/vTW5c58L3SvRXC

ODEDIT_2015-16

32-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/zd5TxF603SvRXF

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/H9TsI7KC3SvRXH

ODEDIT_2018

64-bit version - https://yadi.sk/d/u_fEBj3U3SwacVhttps://yadi.sk/d/u_fEBj3U3SwacVhttps://yadi.sk/d/u_fEBj3U3SwacV

I did not have the technical ability to test the work of 2018.
If it does not work, please inform me.