topic Re: CLIP command in AutoCAD LT Forum

CLIP command

chick.biker — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:08:48 GMT

I know I know, Autodesk does not support the 2013 version. Very frustrating, given the cost of this software.

I have a problem with the CLIP command. I have used it one other time without issue. I am having sentimental thoughts about my days using Microstation, in which clipping a reference file was so easy and worked much better!

What's happening is that when I select the boundary to clip the xref, it inverts the clip - so that everything OUTSIDE the clipping boundary is clipped, not INSIDE. I have no idea why! Can someone advise? Is there a clip setting that makes the command default to inverting the clip???

Re: CLIP command

pendean — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:29:05 GMT

You are probably doing this https://autocadtips1.com/2012/04/11/invert-xclip/
Be careful.

Re: CLIP command

chick.biker — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:53:47 GMT

Be careful is not super helpful, and that is not what I did.

I cannot find anywhere in ACAD LT 2013 where the xref dialogue box has a command option. So here is what I did:

In model space,

RECTANG

Created a rectangle on defpoints to use as a clipping boundary

CLIP

Clicked on the xref to select

New (default)

Selected the rectangle as the new polyline

This clips everything outside the polyline instead of inside.

Re: CLIP command

pendean — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 22:26:29 GMT

Thanks for coming back: what you describe does not invert the XREF here.
What portion of the XREF are you selecting? Is this an xref that is already clipped?

Show m a video of your screen with this problem in action?

Is this a sudden new problem that never appeared before in LT2013?
Or a problem with one file or one xref?
Windows OS is what?
What else may have changed on your PC?

Re: CLIP command

chick.biker — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 00:43:33 GMT

I just clicked on the xref on the screen in model space to select it - I did not select a portion of it, just clicked on it randomly. The xref is not already clipped. I have only used the clip command once before in Autocad - I have LT 2013. Nothing else changed on my computer. I'm not sure how to do a video of my screen!

Re: CLIP command

edwin.prakoso — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 03:48:22 GMT

Can you upload the files (host and reference files) so we can take a look?

Just to be clear, you did this before and things work well?

Re: CLIP command

edwin.prakoso — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:06:23 GMT

I think I know where the option is. You made the boundary from existing polyline, that's why you don't see the flip arrow.

However, when you create the xclip you can invert the boundary. After you click New, there is the Invert Clip option. You probably chose it when you create it.

See the command line below:

Outside mode - Objects outside boundary will be hidden. <--- Before invert
Specify clipping boundary or select invert option:
[Select polyline/Polygonal/Rectangular/Invert clip] <Rectangular>: i
Inside mode - Objects inside boundary will be hidden. <--- after invert

To fix it, you can recreate the xclip. Make sure it says "Outside mode - Objects outside boundary will be hidden." before you select the rectangle

Re: CLIP command

chick.biker — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:30:25 GMT

Are you saying that default mode is that objects OUTSIDE the boundary are hidden? I thought it was the reverse.

Re: CLIP command

edwin.prakoso — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:35:04 GMT

Yes, the default is OUTSIDE boundary. In AutoCAD 2018, the setting is not saved after you use the command. The default is still outside. However, I can't confirm the same behavior for AutoCAD 2013. The setting is probably saved or the polyline direction probably affects it.

Re: CLIP command

chick.biker — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:43:49 GMT

I thought the inverse was true, and I thought that was what happened the first time I used the command. But if the default is outside the boundary, then it's working correctly and I need to invert it. I will try and accept this as a solution if it works. Probably tomorrow morning, though, I am working on paving details. Thank you!

Re: CLIP command

steven-g — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 05:25:49 GMT

Default is outside, another you might need to check is that the existing polyline you used isn't "above" the clipped object as far as draw order is concerned,

it could be that if you click on the boundary of the clipped object, that it is the polyline that highlights, and that won't show the blue inverse arrow.

Re: CLIP command

Emmsleys — Fri, 12 May 2017 22:43:54 GMT

Hi @chick.biker,

Checking in, were you able to find a solution? Or a workaround?

Did any of the posts in the thread help with your issue?

Thanks for your time.