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    <title>topic Re: Why does joining arcs and polylines creates splines? in AutoCAD LT Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Your arc's are upside down (the normals that&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/71745"&gt;@cadffm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;mentions) to fix it you need to change the ucs to 'front' then rotate the arcs 180° around the centre of the front line. Then change the ucs back to world. Then a polyline will be created with join.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Does Rhino perhaps use clockwise arcs?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2021 15:04:46 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>steven-g</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-05-10T15:04:46Z</dc:date>
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&lt;DIV class="MessageSubject"&gt;&lt;FONT face="inherit"&gt;When I try to join polylines and arcs imported from Rhino parts flattened onto the 2D drawing plane, JOIN turns them into splines. Which I don't want. I then have to convert back to polyline which creates many fit points and removes the arcs properties. I need to join lines/polylines and arcs into polylines so that i can continue to edit the arcs and for &lt;/FONT&gt;produce&lt;FONT face="inherit"&gt;&amp;nbsp;cut part files, for which splines do not work.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;I'm working in AutoCAD LT 2021. All the lines are on the same 2D plane, 0 Z coordinate, and were imported from the same Rhino dwg export.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Bizarrely if i draw a line/polyline and an arc in AC LT the join command creates a polyline. Its only with imported (as in the attached door outline) which join into splines. Is this an import/export setting? Is there a function to regulate this?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#808080"&gt;[ The subject line of this post has been edited to include the product name by &lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/12851358"&gt;@handjonathan&lt;/a&gt; ]&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 08:52:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-26T08:52:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does joining arcs and polylines creates splines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;your arcs created in a another coordinate system (select an arc and see the last properties "Normal X,Y,Z" in your ^properties palette (CTRL+1) or use command: LIST&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You will see the normal is not 1&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;in this case join creates splines.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sorry, i don't know a simple way to change this in LT, except redrawing&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2021 11:54:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-05-10T11:54:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does joining arcs and polylines creates splines?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-lt-forum/autocad-lt-2021-why-does-joining-arcs-and-polylines-creates/m-p/10302565#M15091</link>
      <description>See one of hundreds of similar posts &lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/join-makes-splines-instead-of-polylines/td-p/6438577" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/join-makes-splines-instead-of-polylines/td-p/6438577&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you have access to full AutoCAD you can try this &lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/joining-polylines-converts-to-spline/m-p/5986241#M109173" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/joining-polylines-converts-to-spline/m-p/5986241#M109173&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If not, in LT try something like this on your objects BEFORE you join them &lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-lt-forum/joining-arcs-and-lines-creates-splines/m-p/6431934#M141041" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-lt-forum/joining-arcs-and-lines-creates-splines/m-p/6431934#M141041&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;HTH</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2021 12:44:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-05-10T12:44:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does joining arcs and polylines creates splines?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-lt-forum/autocad-lt-2021-why-does-joining-arcs-and-polylines-creates/m-p/10302923#M15092</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Your arc's are upside down (the normals that&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/71745"&gt;@cadffm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;mentions) to fix it you need to change the ucs to 'front' then rotate the arcs 180° around the centre of the front line. Then change the ucs back to world. Then a polyline will be created with join.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Does Rhino perhaps use clockwise arcs?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2021 15:04:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-lt-forum/autocad-lt-2021-why-does-joining-arcs-and-polylines-creates/m-p/10302923#M15092</guid>
      <dc:creator>steven-g</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-05-10T15:04:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does joining arcs and polylines creates splines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you all for the info. I'm looking into how rhino exports them as this seems to been the source of the problem.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 11:04:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-05-17T11:04:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why does joining arcs and polylines creates splines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;If it is a 3D part that you are working with then isolate the part and go to the front face view, create a flat shot with hidden lines off.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;explode the result and use the join command to create a 2D polyline.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2022 22:05:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-lt-forum/autocad-lt-2021-why-does-joining-arcs-and-polylines-creates/m-p/11508257#M15094</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert.SmythXB2PJ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-25T22:05:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AutoCAD LT 2021 - Why does joining arcs and polylines creates splines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;i have the same problem!&amp;nbsp; no idea when arcs on the same 2d plane turn to splines in the 3d space.&amp;nbsp; i can literally copy and paste the same arcs and lines on a 2d space and join them with no problem&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2026 18:52:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>simonquinn</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-04-05T18:52:22Z</dc:date>
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