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    <title>topic Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user in AutoCAD Forum</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/12285852#M98420</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I first reported this exact issue to Autodesk several years ago (either in 2020 or 2021 I’d have to check the exact date). No one followed up. More than a year later I reported it for a second time (this was in June 2022). That time Autodesk called me and said this was very odd because “no one had ever reported this before and if this was true they’d have heard about it by now” and I said I had reported it over a year ago.. which then they did admit they could still see the ticket for.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then I was able to replicate this issue during a video call with Autodesk support and I worked with them to send them a screen recording of it happening. They then issued my support case an ID number giving this issue a “defect” status and told me it would be fixed in an update or the next release. After upgrading to Autocad 2024 we still have the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I contacted support again this week to ask the status (more than 12 months after they IDed this issue) and they were unable to provide an update. Autodesk said they would check into it and follow up again later this week but did say my case was still a “known defect”.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The username balloon notification error is annoying but not an actual workflow problem.. What I am more concerned about is another issue we are having with xrefs (also since around the 2021 release) that we think could be in some way related. And it’s only happening sporadically but to multiple users and computers. We’ve been unable to replicate it even immediately after it’s happened.&lt;BR /&gt;I’m curious if anyone else has had this issue as well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here’s the other issue:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;User A is actively working in a dwg file that is an xref. User B is working in a file linked to that xref. User B tries to open the xref (the file that user A already has open) via right click “open xref”. Autocad gives user B the file. No read only pop up notification appears as it normally does. Then user A will discover they now have a lock at the top of their tab and cannot save their file. User B is able to save theirs but none of what User A has worked on is there.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Autodesk told me “your file locking is controlled by windows not us”.. but that has been true since the early 2000s. And we aren’t experiencing this issue with any other software. Even with Autocad 99% of the time the files are locking normally and the read only notification will appear. But randomly this is happening and I believe it does involve xrefs.. and possibly could be related to this balloon notification username issue. It never happened to us on older versions but sometime after the 2021 release this also started happening.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found one other person also describing the exact issue on Reddit, their post said they’re using Autocad 2021. . Autodesk also told them it can’t be their issue because of the file locking not being controlled by them..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Apologies in advance if I’m breaking some forum rules or something talking about multiple issues within the same thread.)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 04:19:32 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>saughtry</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-10-05T04:19:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9674743#M98385</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In Release 2021 I have noticed that when an Xref gets modified, the balloon notification that pops up to tell you that it has been modified by, is reporting the wrong user name? Has anyone else noticed this random anomaly?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="xref baloon notification.png" style="width: 350px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/803683i5C3CAADDF7BEA96C/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="xref baloon notification.png" alt="xref baloon notification.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:20:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9674743#M98385</guid>
      <dc:creator>mkincaid</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-05T15:20:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9674822#M98386</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;try to use WHOHAS command just to check if you have the same user name .&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;You can use WHOHAS to find out who has a specified drawing file open. &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;A href="https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/ENU/AutoCAD-Core/files/GUID-7E20A4D7-EB74-4354-8ADE-7EF172F0E16D-htm.html#:~:text=You%20can%20use%20WHOHAS%20to,the%20drawing%20file%20was%20opened." target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Click&lt;/A&gt; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:46:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9674822#M98386</guid>
      <dc:creator>imadHabash</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-05T15:46:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9679466#M98387</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Great idea. The next time I got the balloon notification, I use the who has command, and it came up with "unknown". I'm almost starting to wonder where this balloon notification captures its data from.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2020 16:23:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9679466#M98387</guid>
      <dc:creator>mkincaid</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-07T16:23:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9680271#M98388</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2023 04:20:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9680271#M98388</guid>
      <dc:creator>MOHDYOUNUSINFO</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-14T04:20:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9680273#M98389</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2023 04:19:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9680273#M98389</guid>
      <dc:creator>MOHDYOUNUSINFO</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-14T04:19:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9680277#M98390</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/6867454"&gt;@MOHDYOUNUSINFO&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Please ... make a &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;new&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; post and describe well your issue so can others help you !! &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2020 08:24:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9680277#M98390</guid>
      <dc:creator>imadHabash</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-08T08:24:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9680297#M98391</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank You for New Knowledge&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hari Nair[Master From Lost&amp;nbsp; nalanda]&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2020 08:39:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9680297#M98391</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-08T08:39:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11397855#M98392</link>
      <description>unknown simply implies that the file is no longer open by someone else. I too am getting this issue.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 14:41:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11397855#M98392</guid>
      <dc:creator>spear_kevin_pe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-02T14:41:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11397908#M98393</link>
      <description>&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9674822#M1027411" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/9674822#M1027411&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 15:06:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11397908#M98393</guid>
      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-02T15:06:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11397909#M98394</link>
      <description>i think you linked to the same thread?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 15:07:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11397909#M98394</guid>
      <dc:creator>spear_kevin_pe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-02T15:07:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11398323#M98395</link>
      <description>&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1057014"&gt;@spear_kevin_pe&lt;/a&gt; I wanted you to reread message #2 above to help solve the mystery.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 19:13:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11398323#M98395</guid>
      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-02T19:13:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11398345#M98396</link>
      <description>that only helps if the user is still in the reference file. If that person saved and closed, then you get the 'unkown' result. My issue is not identifying the current user, that is actually known. The problem is that AUTOCAD is identifying the previous user of that reference file in the notification, not the actual last person who saved the file.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Let me reset the situation. You reference a file (DWG B) last saved by USER B into your file (DWG A). You notice a change needs to be made, so you open DWG B and make the edit yourself, save and close. Back in DWG A, the xref notification opens and says USER B modified the file and needs to be reloaded. Clearly, USER A made the change and not USER B.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Second step, USER A then notices another edit to DWG B that is needed. DWG B is opened again by USER A and edits made, saved and closed. Switching back to DWG A displays the xref notification that USER A made a change to DWG B and needs to be reloaded.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The above happens without any customizations to AutoCAD and happens in 2022 and 2023 to different users in different companies.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 19:30:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11398345#M98396</guid>
      <dc:creator>spear_kevin_pe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-02T19:30:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11436229#M98397</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Any update on this? We are having this exact problem in 2023, did not happen in 2020.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 13:53:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11436229#M98397</guid>
      <dc:creator>amer1337</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-21T13:53:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11438980#M98398</link>
      <description>In regards to message #2, I don't have the same user name in this issue. My test files came from another company I am working with. His username is not even in our domain. Any other thoughts?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:23:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11438980#M98398</guid>
      <dc:creator>spear_kevin_pe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-22T14:23:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11439175#M98399</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i have not gotten any further clarification. I finally submitted a case to Autodesk. Obviously, reloading the XREF does show the correct geometry even if the username is wrong. For now, we are ignoring the name and moving forward. You could turn off xref notification and just reload as needed (XREFNOTIFY to ZERO) or let AutoCAD reload them when opening a file.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2022 15:24:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11439175#M98399</guid>
      <dc:creator>spear_kevin_pe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-22T15:24:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11756934#M98400</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1057014"&gt;@spear_kevin_pe&lt;/a&gt;, was Autodesk able to resolve this issue for you? I work with large teams, and a PM asked me to investigate this issue as they're tired of asking the wrong person about changes they didn't make &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😄&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:53:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11756934#M98400</guid>
      <dc:creator>pobrienFNE96</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-02-15T15:53:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11757133#M98401</link>
      <description>I have not. The support case was pushed up to development. I am reaching out to them to get some update as its been about 5-6 months since the original case.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:51:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11757133#M98401</guid>
      <dc:creator>spear_kevin_pe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-02-15T16:51:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11757352#M98402</link>
      <description>Thanks for letting me know!&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2023 18:14:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11757352#M98402</guid>
      <dc:creator>pobrienFNE96</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-02-15T18:14:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11794211#M98403</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have seen a similar issue in AutoCAD/Civil 3D 2020 and also in AutoCAD/Civil 3D 2023.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;This seems to be a long standing issue with all recent versions.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2023 18:59:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11794211#M98403</guid>
      <dc:creator>dgauerDED75</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-02T18:59:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11818543#M98404</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Following up on this topic, ex-employee name pops up when I just modified/saved the XREF.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2023 18:42:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/external-reference-update-balloon-notification-reports-wrong/m-p/11818543#M98404</guid>
      <dc:creator>gdunhamPY2ED</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-13T18:42:47Z</dc:date>
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