topic Re: Blocks Scale Issue in AutoCAD Forum

Blocks Scale Issue

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 18:00:43 GMT

I have blocks (not annotative) set up in the tool palette with all relevant blocks have an aux. scale of the dimscale.

However, whenever I change the annotative scale, it doesn't change the dimscale. Cannoscale changes with the annotative scale, but not the dimscale.

Is there a way to have dimscale automatically update based on the Cannoscale/Annotativescale?

Re: Blocks Scale Issue

pendean — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 20:12:22 GMT

CANNOSCALE command has nothing to do with DIMSCALE: perhaps you used to have an add-on or a customization that did that for you in an earlier version of AutoCAD?

Looks like you are ready to move into annotative blocks otherwise.

Let us know.

Re: Blocks Scale Issue

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 20:35:20 GMT

@pendean wrote:
CANNOSCALE command has nothing to do with DIMSCALE: perhaps you used to have an add-on or a customization that did that for you in an earlier version of AutoCAD?

Looks like you are ready to move into annotative blocks otherwise.

Let us know.

I was hoping that wasn't the case. our setup right now has the following process for new drawings:

open a new drawing
change scale from 1'-0" = 1'-0" to 1/8" = 1'-0" (or any other scale)
type in -dwgunits
1. 1
2. 4
3. 8
4. y
5. y

I don't remember if we had a specific customization before, but I know we haven't used any add-ons for the program since we installed it.

Re: Blocks Scale Issue

pendean — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 21:27:45 GMT

If I may ask, why do you start a new drawing with this cumbersome manner?
Are you folks not able to create a template file(s) with all the settings, layers and more ready to be used when you need it?
and if I may ask, how and where are you "...change scale from 1'-0" = 1'-0" to 1/8" = 1'-0" (or any other scale)..." exactly, and why do you do it exactly if you have no use for annotative blocks/ text/ dimensions/ mleaders etc.?

TIA

Re: Blocks Scale Issue

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 21:38:46 GMT

@pendean wrote:
If I may ask, why do you start a new drawing with this cumbersome manner?
Are you folks not able to create a template file(s) with all the settings, layers and more ready to be used when you need it?
and if I may ask, how and where are you "...change scale from 1'-0" = 1'-0" to 1/8" = 1'-0" (or any other scale)..." exactly, and why do you do it exactly if you have no use for annotative blocks/ text/ dimensions/ mleaders etc.?

TIA

Whenever we set up a project and change from the scale (see image) to any other scale in the list, the blocks inserted either from the tool palette or from our computers, the scale of the block acts as if the drawing is still on the scale from the image. Only by typing in -dwgunits and following the steps will the blocks inserted into the drawing work as intended. In the tool palette, all blocks that are scaleable have the aux. scale set to dimscale.

Blocks, and text for the most part, are the only things we use that are not annotative. from my understanding, the blocks were created when annotative scale was not a thing in AutoCAD, and there was no time and/or understanding of annotation when it did come out to change the blocks. The latter part of the last sentence is the reason why I was trying to find a way to have dimscale automatically scale itself when cannoscale/annotation scale changes.

Re: Blocks Scale Issue

pendean — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 23:57:45 GMT

There is NEVER a need to change CANNOSCALE to 1/8" or anything else if you are not using and have no need to ever use annotative text and blocks. It means nothing to how you are using AutoCAD.

Simply type DIMSCALE and change it to whatever you want, since you are already doing all of that typing with -DWGUNITS command as well.

Just turn that box off so you never use it, and continue on with your CAD Drafting methods you've always used.
Here is how to turn that off so you folks are not ever distracted by it:

Hope that helps.

Re: Blocks Scale Issue

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 13:59:41 GMT

I can't quite do that, I still have some items that we use that depend on annotation. Almost every drawing we receive by other firms also use annotation, so we want to keep as consistent as possible.

I am now wondering what would happen to all of our old drawings if I managed to get all of our blocks to annotation. It seems like that would make things a lot easier.