topic Re: Commandline commands in AutoCAD Forum

Commandline commands

vandenoosterkamp — Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:51:09 GMT

Any longterm user of autocad hates popup commands because it's extra clicks only. On good days I even manage to avoid the ribbon completely.

Unfortunattely 'newer' commands are most of the time popup only. WHY????????????

Please autodesk, think of your first users to and give us commandline commands for ALL COMMANDS!

I change my startup lisp all the time and after each change I need to reload it using that terribly annoying time wasting popup command. If only _appload was available as a commandline command I could write another '3 keyboard-hits-and-it's-done' command.

You slow me down Autodesk!! I like to work fast, so help me out here okay??

Of course you want us to work slow so you can sell more subscriptions of this crippled [~~censored~~] of wich you think it contains the functions we need.

Re: Commandline commands

imadHabash — Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:43:01 GMT

Hi,

if you try to control this behavior by INPUTSEARCHOPTIONS command , any changes ?

Re: Commandline commands

vandenoosterkamp — Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:11:55 GMT

No, that does not perform the miracle of adding the _appload command to the software. I guess you missed the point here. All search and autofill crap is of course at all times disabled over here anyway because it slows down typing fast

Re: Commandline commands

RobDraw — Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:03:25 GMT

@vandenoosterkamp wrote:
Any longterm user of autocad hates popup commands because it's extra clicks only. On good days I even manage to avoid the ribbon completely.

I couldn't disagree more. Please only speak for yourself. Most of us have adapted to multiple interfaces without issues.

@vandenoosterkamp wrote:
Unfortunattely 'newer' commands are most of the time popup only. WHY????????????

The answer to that seems obvious.

@vandenoosterkamp wrote:
You slow me down Autodesk!! I like to work fast, so help me out here okay??

Autodesk is not here. You are talking to fellow users. In my world, working fast is usually not a good thing. So, called "fast drafters" make lots of mistakes because of their speed.

With that said, have you looked for or asked about command line versions of the commands? Most people ask questions before making demands for "new" functions.

New tech is not meant to slow you down. In fact, it can speed you up, if used effectively. Out of all the ways to execute commands, you are using one of the oldest. "Resistance is futile." Adapt or get left behind.

Re: Commandline commands

GrantsPirate — Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:28:11 GMT

Add those to your ACADDOC.lsp with the autoload function. Launch them anytime with the shortcut characters you want.

One example of what I am referring to:

(AUTOLOAD "C:/ACAD/LSP/FRZX" '("FRZX")) ;freeze_layers_including_xrefs_by_pick

The file is FRZX.lsp and could be made to call it with any combo of characters, I stayed with FRZX.

Re: Commandline commands

vandenoosterkamp — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:26:58 GMT

@RobDraw wrote:In my world, working fast is usually not a good thing. So, called "fast drafters" make lots of mistakes because of their speed. Adapt or get left behind.

It's more about working as 'blind' and effective as possible and that is being slowed down by autodesk all the time.

my short for convertplines is 23. In a large dwg i hit 23, spacebar, click the line and hit the spacebar again. The result: NOTHING because the program can't keep up with my input. I do adapt, wait for the very expensive program to first understand what I want when entering 23 and a hit of the spacebar. After that continue with the rest of an utterly simple command.

Some people can work in autocad like typing blind on a typewriter, try to adapt to that yourself and get a weeks work done in a day with the exact same effort. That can indeed be done but only when you learn NOT to use the ribbon and icons. Only 20+ years experienced users can teach you that and there are very few left indeed

Re: Commandline commands

RobDraw — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:36:11 GMT

Anyone there uses only one way of inputting commands is limiting themselves. I have no desire to learn such a restrictive workflow. It's interesting that you choose to use the word "blind". So called "fast drafters" often work as though they are blind. They don't take the time to think about what they are doing and don't double check their work. They also don't take the time to learn new things to improve their workflow.

For instance, for your example, you can change your input settings to improve the speed of inputting commands from the command line.

Good luck oh speedy one.

Re: Commandline commands

skintsubby — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:00:31 GMT

@RobDraw wrote:
So called "fast drafters" often work as though they are blind. They don't take the time to think about what they are doing and don't double check their work. They also don't take the time to learn new things to improve their workflow.

I think this bit is where you should take your own advice "I couldn't disagree more. Please only speak for yourself. " rather than make a generic comment about others.

We all work differently to suit our own styles and workflows. Saying one persons way is wrong just because it doesn't suit your way or experience is only your opinion not a statement of fact.

Re: Commandline commands

RobDraw — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:34:47 GMT

@skintsubby wrote:
I think this bit is where you should take your own advice "I couldn't disagree more. Please only speak for yourself. " rather than make a generic comment about others.

I am speaking for myself and from my experience. The OP on the other hand took it upon themselves to speak for "Any longterm user of autocad". See the difference?

@skintsubby wrote:
We all work differently to suit our own styles and workflows. Saying one persons way is wrong just because it doesn't suit your way or experience is only your opinion not a statement of fact.

Which is exactly my point. I take it you are one of those "fast drafters".) I think I can speak to this point as most of my career has been in a support position. I have had to learn many different workflows so that I can be of value to the users that I support.

I take it you are one of those "fast drafters" and took offence from my comment. Sorry but I can only call them the way I see them and I've seen a lot of them.

Now, unless you have something of actual value to add. Good day and thank you very much.

Re: Commandline commands

skintsubby — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:44:36 GMT

I take it you are one of those "fast drafters" and took offence from my comment. Sorry but I can only call them the way I see them and I've seen a lot of them.

Nope. I'm just a plodder and no offence taken.

You just made an incorrect generic comment, which you've clarified.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Mark

Re: Commandline commands

RobDraw — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:54:39 GMT

@skintsubby wrote:
You just made an incorrect generic comment, which you've clarified.

How can it be incorrect? Maybe your interpretation was incorrect?