topic Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups in AutoCAD Forum

Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Sun, 27 Dec 2020 09:13:16 GMT

Hi everyone.

I'd be very grateful if someone can help me with the following issue. Can't seem to find an answer online.

I have a drawing with one layout. The layout has multiple viewports. There are multiple page setups on that same layout with settings, each with a window to one of viewports.

I need to change the CTB for all those page setups at once.

Any ideas?

(See attached picture for how the layout looks like).

Thank you in advance!

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:48:29 GMT

I forgot to add that for some reason when I change CTB, Autocad doesn't ask me whether to apply it to all the other layouts. (I think that was the message it used to ask me).

Maybe that worked, but I don't know how to make it ask me again and whether that is the solution.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

maratovich — Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:35:37 GMT

Add an example of your file.

Maybe you want to print everything at once with one style?

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:39:36 GMT

I use Publish command. I have to get multiple A3 for each viewport
separately (hence windows to specific place in layout). I can’t post an
example of drawing at the moment. Tomorrow will be able to.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:35:53 GMT

Here's an example of the file in e-transmit with the CTBs.

I've erased all the sensitive info.

You can see rectangles on the layout tab which are the windows for each of page setups.

All the page setups are on the same one layout.

I need to change CTB in all of them.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:37:08 GMT

My end goal is a PDF booklet which contains all the A3 pages plotted under same CTB. I have a DSD file for use in PUBLISH command which achieves that.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

RobDraw — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 11:59:30 GMT

This would be much easier if you had made only one page per layout.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 12:15:36 GMT

Definitely. But then it’s a pain in the neck if I need to make changes on all the rectangles content which happens pretty often.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

maratovich — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 12:16:48 GMT

I have a solution to print all title blocks with style (attached)

migdal-haemek-mecher.ctb

But there's a problem.

Your title blocks are not correct.

You cannot set the print order by sheet number from the title block.

There is no way to sort sheets in PDF.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

RobDraw — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 13:07:06 GMT

@yael.vsh wrote:
Definitely. But then it’s a pain in the neck if I need to make changes on all the rectangles content which happens pretty often.

You do this to avoid changing rectangles? I'm positive that there is a much better way of changing multple rectangles than what you are currently doing.

You may as well be working in model space and stop using paper space altogether with that layout.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

maratovich — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 17:21:09 GMT

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

tboehler — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:38:04 GMT

Plot from model space (just a temp plot) and change the ctb file. You will get the promt - "Assign this plot style to all layouts"

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

maratovich — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:31:54 GMT

@tboehler wrote:

Open file sample !

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

RobDraw — Tue, 29 Dec 2020 11:25:11 GMT

Moving forward.

Next drawing, you really should consider multiple layouts. You are already using page setups like they are layouts. You could possibly have one .ctb and one page setup controlling all of the layouts.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:44:37 GMT

That's an interesting way. I will look into it.

For now I was using PUBLISH.

Lack of order is a major obstacle. What is it you mention about blocks titles? Any way to make it in order?

Thank you.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

RobDraw — Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:59:43 GMT

You could make them any order you want if you had a layout for each one.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

maratovich — Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:58:31 GMT

You need :
Or add the sheet number attribute to each title block
Or add the sheet number with text, but so that it is in the same place for everyone.

I recommend looking at how your title blocks are created - it's a nightmare:
1. Vertical title blocks differ from horizontal ones.
2. The stamp (main inscription) should be the same for everyone.
Or they must be different in height.
3. Your vertical title blocks are scaled, that's bad.
4. In verticals there is no sheet number.
5. Not everywhere - only sheets.
6. I recommend using a dynamic title block for all formats.
See an example.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 07:42:17 GMT

Thank you.

I have to think if it makes sense to me to invest in making such blocks, because they are all different in different projects. I have to research the topic of dynamic blocks more in depth for that.

If I numerated the pages numbers, and then have to insert a page in the middle, and update the rest - is there a quick way?

I've been using TCOUNT.

P.S. I liked the info in company name etc 😉 Nice reference.

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

yael.vsh — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 07:43:22 GMT

Oh, this is where it went! That prompt. I didn't realize it was only in the model. Thank you!

Didn't fix the problem though..

Re: Change CTB for Multiple Page Setups

ricaerredo — Thu, 05 May 2022 14:05:24 GMT

Straight to the point. That was what I was looking for.

Thank you!