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Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

Rpunturi — Fri, 25 Oct 2024 17:39:12 GMT

Due to the number of entities and viewports, we require multiple DWG files to plot our final product.

X-ref is typically the way to go. However, that method took a long time for each sheet to render each plot. Using the X-ref, I can anticipate 45 seconds per sheet.

The workaround we were using was to create a master block of the origin file's model space and then insert that master block into a separate slave DWG file. Then, we could create additional viewports and publish without much lag. The master block did not impact the publisher's speed the way the X-ref did, so once we set up a .dsd file, it would zip right along through multiple files, creating one published book.

When edits were required, we made them to the original file master block, saved that file, and redefined the master block in the other slave files.

The new issue is that Acad 2025 does not play well with the master block, and publishing has slowed down to the same pace as the X-ref. About 45 seconds a sheet.

If the master blocks in all the files are all exploded, publishing goes rocket fast. But that eliminates the redefine step, and edits become an issue.

If the block is not exploded in any of the files, when the publisher gets to that file, it slows to 45 seconds per sheet.

I have tried every setting I can think of. all prior versions of autocad except 2024 have been uninstalled. Publish in the background has been turned off long ago.

Reloaded the page setups, then remade the page set up using set up manager. Verified all the setting I know about between the prior version and this new one are the same.

This issue may have something to do with the new way cad is handling blocks,

What did Autodesk change and is there a setting that unchanges it?

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

pendean — Fri, 25 Oct 2024 19:39:41 GMT

Never seen anything like that before in older versions nor in 2025. But it look like your old system of using blocks may be the sole issue (not aware of anyone that does that BTW).

A few questions please:

Is this Plain AutoCAD2025 or a vertical (C3D, MAP, MECH, Plant3D etc.)?
Any 3rd party add-ons being used?
What are you publishing to? External or built-in PDF drivers, DWF, plotter/printer? PC3?PMP files for the last ones, or Windows drivers?
Did you test different output options and they are all equally slow?
What are your PUBLISH parameters?
Do you use SSM? Or are you publishing from modelspace only?
Where do you store your files? How are you connected to that?
OS is Windows or MAC?
File sizes (top, XREFs, "blocks" etc.)?
Is this a clean install of 2025, or did you all use the migration tools to transfer from your old version to this one?

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

imadHabash — Sat, 26 Oct 2024 03:11:57 GMT

Hi,

You may get some difference by trying cleaning all of your files by AUDIT, Recover and -Purge ( RegApps ). I suggest to follow Here all methods that may help.

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

Valentin_CAD — Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:20:05 GMT

@Rpunturi ,

In addition to the suggestions mentioned, also take a look at these:

Publishing takes a long time to complete in AutoCAD Products

Slow performance after exiting the Block Editor in AutoCAD

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

Rpunturi — Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:17:57 GMT

My apologies for the delay; the internet died.

Standard Cad, Not Vertical
no add on's.
PDF Preset Autocad PDF (General Documentation)
No, I have not. We all use the default plotter.
Plot to PDF, Multi sheet file, 8-1/2X11 centered scaled to fit, Include Layers (Tested did not affect), Line to overwrite, Plot style = none, Plot object line weights, Plot paper space last (Tested did not affect) Here is a copy of the .dsd for a single sheet

[DWF6Version] Ver=1 [DWF6MinorVersion] MinorVer=1 [DWF6Sheet:COVER] DWG=C:\C Work\153 - Vidina Bld 1 - WC - 07.31.23.dwg Layout=COVER Setup=CM-COVER OriginalSheetPath=C:\C Work\153 - Vidina Bld 1 - WC - 07.31.23.dwg Has Plot Port=0 Has3DDWF=0 [Target] Type=6 DWF=C:\_Design and Panel books\Office Park Building-1 r0 08Aug23.pdf OUT=D:\Jobs\ PWD= [MRU Local] MRU=0 [MRU Sheet List] MRU=6 File0=C:\C Work\Print\11x17\1-50.dsd [PdfOptions] IncludeHyperlinks=FALSE CreateBookmarks=TRUE CaptureFontsInDrawing=FALSE ConvertTextToGeometry=FALSE VectorResolution=1200 RasterResolution=400 [AutoCAD Block Data] IncludeBlockInfo=0 BlockTmplFilePath= [SheetSet Properties] IsSheetSet=FALSE IsHomogeneous=FALSE SheetSet Name= NoOfCopies=1 PlotStampOn=FALSE ViewFile=FALSE JobID=0 SelectionSetName= AcadProfile=<<Unnamed Profile>> CategoryName= LogFilePath= IncludeLayer=TRUE LineMerge=FALSE CurrentPrecision= PromptForDwfName=TRUE PwdProtectPublishedDWF=FALSE PromptForPwd=FALSE RepublishingMarkups=FALSE PublishSheetSetMetadata=FALSE PublishSheetMetadata=FALSE 3DDWFOptions=0 1

Publish using dsd. Publish paper space only. I don't know how to use the sheet set function. We are printing 50 to 100 sheets from a single file. Its odd but it works(ed)
The files are stored at root c:\Cwork: **.DWG, Plot goes to the job folder in a separate drive.
Windows 10
Larges file size is 13,000KB, We keep the PDF xrefs in the file and normally have about 50 blocks total. One can have 12000 entities, The files that are lagging have 8200 entities.
Unfortunately, its a migration, the a reinstall because the action recorder wasn't working. So I may could re-install again. but I need the migrate. To many tools bars to redo.

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

Rpunturi — Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:19:22 GMT

I opened the files with repair and did an audit. Then used a seperate file to ensure it was not that specific dwg file.

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

Rpunturi — Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:29:09 GMT

Missing updates.
- CAd is up to date
Background plotting is enabled.
- Background plotting is turned off
A high-quality driver is selected, and there are many images in the file.
- Using Cad driver to maintain consistency over many computers
The plot driver is damaged or corrupted.
- Not sure how to restore a CAD driver. I will look into that.
The Temp folder is full.
- Just installed the proggy, most likely not the case.
A layout is damaged or corrupted.
- Test multiple files.
Complex project stored on network.
- Stored on the same computer

As complicated as this sounds it actully not. Im simply telling the publisher to go find a file, then a tab then the named range on that tab. This issue most likely is impacted on how CAD is managing the info in the window. Its been changed so that if there is a block, its seeing the entire block regardless if it need to print it or not.

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

Rpunturi — Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:31:16 GMT

Just tested at length. Everything is working correctly.

Unfortunately, this means I cannot repeat the error, and I didn't do anything to fix it.

I did reboot my computer a half dozen times to sort the internet, so perhaps that corrected it.

My apologies and thank you all for your help.

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

pendean — Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:58:46 GMT

@Rpunturi wrote:
Just tested at length. Everything is working correctly.
Unfortunately, this means I cannot repeat the error, and I didn't do anything to fix it.
I did reboot my computer a half dozen times to sort the internet, so perhaps that corrected it.
My apologies and thank you all for your help.
R

Thank for sharing your progress.

Re: Publish is slow when file is a block in 2025

paullimapa — Mon, 28 Oct 2024 17:45:49 GMT

“…My apologies for the delay; the internet died.”

If you’re storing your dwg files on the internet then it’s possible that the recent repair of your connection resolved the problem