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    <title>topic Betreff: How model space loads changes after saving, closing, and re-opening same drawing. in AutoCAD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Guessing: Your STARTUP is set to 2 ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If yes, set STARTUP =3 and restart AutoCAD, try it again&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Still not working? Please create a sample dwg (sample outer border without the drawing, OR the original one) and share DWG+Screenshots:&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Start AutoCAD by your desktop-icon&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-create a Screenshot1 by pressing [print] and use paint or word &amp;amp; CTRL+V to create the imagefile.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-open your sample DWG (and zoom&amp;amp;pan how you want, save the DWG file&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-create a Screenshot2 by pressing [print] and use paint or word &amp;amp; CTRL+V to create the imagefile.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-close and re-open the file&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-create a Screenshot3 by pressing [print] and use paint or word &amp;amp; CTRL+V to create the imagefile.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can not see all your seetings and your steps in detail, the screenshots can help to find the problem.&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 20:23:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-11-08T20:23:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How model space loads changes after saving, closing, and re-opening same drawing.</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't use paper space or viewports. All I use is what is drawn in model space.&amp;nbsp; When I "zoom" "extents" the entire drawing (outer thick border) is completely seen in model space.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I save, close, and re-open the same drawing, the view of the drawing is now shifted down, about the height of a tab or the command line.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The origin remains at the bottom left corner of the border.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;exportmodelspace is set to 0.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ucsicon is set to On and Origin.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It happens when I use 2DWireframe.&amp;nbsp; It does&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;not&lt;/EM&gt; cut off in Wireframe, but still does not open with zoom extents view as was saved before closing and re-opening.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Default save as is for 2010.&amp;nbsp; I am using AutoCAD 2023.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I need it to save so that how I see it when I save and close is exactly how it appears upon opening the same drawing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 20:13:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>khile</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-08T20:13:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: How model space loads changes after saving, closing, and re-opening same drawing.</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/how-model-space-loads-changes-after-saving-closing-and-re/m-p/11539481#M47937</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Guessing: Your STARTUP is set to 2 ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If yes, set STARTUP =3 and restart AutoCAD, try it again&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Still not working? Please create a sample dwg (sample outer border without the drawing, OR the original one) and share DWG+Screenshots:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Start AutoCAD by your desktop-icon&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-create a Screenshot1 by pressing [print] and use paint or word &amp;amp; CTRL+V to create the imagefile.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-open your sample DWG (and zoom&amp;amp;pan how you want, save the DWG file&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-create a Screenshot2 by pressing [print] and use paint or word &amp;amp; CTRL+V to create the imagefile.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-close and re-open the file&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-create a Screenshot3 by pressing [print] and use paint or word &amp;amp; CTRL+V to create the imagefile.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can not see all your seetings and your steps in detail, the screenshots can help to find the problem.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 20:23:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-08T20:23:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How model space loads changes after saving, closing, and re-opening same drawing.</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/how-model-space-loads-changes-after-saving-closing-and-re/m-p/11539509#M47938</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13136730"&gt;@khile&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Thank you for posting. I was able to see the behavior in versions back to 2017, and the file format or version does not seem to make a difference. It almost looks like after it loads the drawing, it then adjusts for the elements on the screen.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I was not able to determine any system variables that affected this, however In 2023, opening a blank drawing first resolved the issue for subsequent drawings during testing. Maybe this will help.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;That said, I&amp;nbsp;can see how this could be frustrating and encourage you to submit your experience along with the desired behavior through the &lt;A href="http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&amp;amp;id=1109794" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Autodesk Product Feedback&lt;/A&gt; link, for future consideration if no solution is found.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;All the best,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#808000"&gt;[This post has been edited for clarity by cheryl.buck]&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 20:52:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cheryl.buck</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-08T20:52:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How model space loads changes after saving, closing, and re-opening same drawing.</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/how-model-space-loads-changes-after-saving-closing-and-re/m-p/11539537#M47939</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;solved!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Startup was already set to &amp;lt;3&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp; - no change&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Profile had been unloaded and reloaded. - no change&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All system variables were set according to our system's configuration (job's specs).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Coworker said the Viewcube showed "unnamed" when she opened the drawing.&amp;nbsp; It still read "WCS" when I view the drawing. When I drop down the arrow and re-select "WCS", the view is automatically reset to zoom extents, and save-close-open opens the drawing in the correct view.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the replies! You guys are great.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 20:50:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>khile</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-08T20:50:05Z</dc:date>
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