topic Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only in AutoCAD Forum

AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

mmXSRCR — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:45:14 GMT

Hello, this is my first time posting to the CAD forums so I appreciate the advice.

I have double checked that the turn path is on the right layer, and checked whether that layer is frozen in the viewports (it's not). When I isolate that layer in model space, the turn path disappears. Any idea what might be causing this issue?
Thank you.

Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

paullimapa — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 04:42:05 GMT

post sample dwg with that problem

Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

mmXSRCR — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 14:28:55 GMT

Hello Paul,

Thank you so much for your help! The layer is "AT Trash Truck Berth 4 IN - Alternate3." It won't show up in the "Trash Truck Berth 4 - alternate" page viewports, even though it shows up on the "Trash Truck Berth 5" page.

Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

M_Hensley — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:13:02 GMT

When I looked at it the layer for AT Trash Truck Berth 4 IN - Alternate is frozen in that viewport.

Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

mmXSRCR — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:23:08 GMT

I realized I have too many layers in there with similar names for that turn attempt. The "AT Trash Truck Berth 4 IN - Alternate" layer does show up for me when I unfreeze it in that viewport. However, I'm still having trouble with the "AT Trash Truck Berth 4 IN - Alternate3" layer.

Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

M_Hensley — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:33:19 GMT

When I freeze all layers except AT Trash Truck Berth 4 IN - Alternate3 there is nothing on that layer.

Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

mmXSRCR — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 15:44:26 GMT

I get that result too. It does seem to work in the example I posted when the "AT Trash Truck Berth 4 IN - Alternate3" layer is current and a new turn path is created on that layer. I tried the same thing in my original file, which has many xrefs and some layer names even longer than the ones in the example. In the original file, I still had the same issue. I will try cleaning up my original the way I did for my example - by using the PURGE command and shortening some layer names. I'll see if that helps and post the results here.

Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

cadffm — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:20:59 GMT

I edited this post, because i wrote about another part of your drawing,

but the main problem (how layer properties ON/OFF and FREEZE/THAW works) is still the same.

Nested objects, nested blocks and layer usage - the structur is not well done in this drawing.

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Hi,

basic layer&block knowledge, all works as normal.

Your Blockreference of Block *U466 for example refers to Layer "AT Trash Truck Berth 4 IN - Alternate3"
but the turn path and all other objects inside your block referes to "AT Trash Truck Berth 5 OUT - Alternate"

But your block contains objects on another layer only!

All content is refering to Layer "AT Trash Truck Berth 5 OUT - Alternate"

and this layer is VPFREEZED in that viewport!

A quick inside to Layer and Blocks:

Layer ON/OFF show or hide object which refer to this layer.

Layer Thaw/Freeze load or remove objects which refer to this layer from editor.

AND: For Blocks&Xrefs: Is a layer freezed and one blockreference refers to this layer,

the blockreference remove from the editor (wich means: also all the content disappears,

because there isn't longer the Blockreference object, which display the block content.)

You also have a viewport on layer "AT TRASH TRUCK BERTH 4 IN - ALTERNATE3",

have a look more on your layers.

Re: AutoTurn - turn path shows up in Model Space only

mmXSRCR — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 16:45:57 GMT

Got it. Thank you @paullimapa, @M_Hensley and @cadffm for your help. Looks like I need to do some more reading on blocks and layers in AutoCAD, and keep in mind AutoTurn paths are always created as blocks. Have a great day!