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    <title>topic How do those rulers at the top of the MTEXT box work? in AutoCAD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Every now and then I accidentally mess something up on them and now it starts every new line with an offset or similar undesired behavior. (its supposed to be an indent I guess?)&amp;nbsp; I just want it to work like a normal text editor again.&amp;nbsp; I try to fix it by dragging the markers around but it never seems to get back to normal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="KDAddison_0-1756391189879.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1565613iB56C03A3489EFC37/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="KDAddison_0-1756391189879.png" alt="KDAddison_0-1756391189879.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It seems a neglected topic in all the mtext how to items I can find.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:31:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>KDAddison</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-08-28T14:31:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How do those rulers at the top of the MTEXT box work?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/how-do-those-rulers-at-the-top-of-the-mtext-box-work/m-p/13787155#M353645</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Every now and then I accidentally mess something up on them and now it starts every new line with an offset or similar undesired behavior. (its supposed to be an indent I guess?)&amp;nbsp; I just want it to work like a normal text editor again.&amp;nbsp; I try to fix it by dragging the markers around but it never seems to get back to normal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="KDAddison_0-1756391189879.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1565613iB56C03A3489EFC37/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="KDAddison_0-1756391189879.png" alt="KDAddison_0-1756391189879.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It seems a neglected topic in all the mtext how to items I can find.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:31:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>KDAddison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-28T14:31:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do those rulers at the top of the MTEXT box work?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/how-do-those-rulers-at-the-top-of-the-mtext-box-work/m-p/13787178#M353647</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Some of that is covered in this:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.augi.com/articles/detail/autocad-tricks-for-mtext-beyond-the-basics1" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.augi.com/articles/detail/autocad-tricks-for-mtext-beyond-the-basics1&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:44:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AllenJessup</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-28T14:44:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do those rulers at the top of the MTEXT box work?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/how-do-those-rulers-at-the-top-of-the-mtext-box-work/m-p/13787427#M353678</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3181309"&gt;@KDAddison&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Every now and then I accidentally mess something up on them and now it starts every new line with an offset or similar undesired behavior....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you using TABS for spaces?&lt;BR /&gt;Do you have have these two checked inside your MTEXT editor?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="pendean_0-1756400997714.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1565689iECA2BFF747319C4C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="pendean_0-1756400997714.png" alt="pendean_0-1756400997714.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:10:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-08-28T17:10:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do those rulers at the top of the MTEXT box work?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3181309"&gt;@KDAddison&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Those 'L' shaped symbols in the ruler are TABS. If you want to your mtext to display with neatly arranged columns use Tabs. Create Tabs by left mouse clicking on the ruler. You may delete a Tab by dragging it to the left until it completely falls OFF the ruler. Careful, 2 or more Tab symbols might land on top of one another so you may have to drag multiple times to make each individual Tab symbol disappear.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="101.PNG" style="width: 964px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1565681iDF4C74EA5D645764/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="101.PNG" alt="101.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;At the far left of the ruler, there are TWO arrows. Look carefully and you'll see the upper arrow points down and the lower arrow points up. The arrows look like triangles. Don't accidentally move an arrow, leave them be, or you'll get unintentional indents and might make your mtext look wonky.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="102.PNG" style="width: 542px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1565682i1A2F55FF41C7D5A9/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="102.PNG" alt="102.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dragging the &lt;STRONG&gt;upper&lt;/STRONG&gt; arrow to the right makes Line 1 of the &lt;U&gt;highlighted text&lt;/U&gt; align below it. Lines 2, 3, 4, etc. remain aligned with the &lt;STRONG&gt;lower&lt;/STRONG&gt; arrow. &lt;STRONG&gt;Only the FIRST highlighted line is managed by the upper arrow.&lt;/STRONG&gt; 'Notes' isn't highlighted so it's not affected by either arrow.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="103.PNG" style="width: 547px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1565683i64583E4271E95C35/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="103.PNG" alt="103.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dragging the &lt;STRONG&gt;lower&lt;/STRONG&gt; arrow to the right makes Lines 2, 3, 4, etc. of the &lt;U&gt;highlighted text&lt;/U&gt; align align below it. Line 1 maintains its original position because the &lt;STRONG&gt;upper&lt;/STRONG&gt; arrow wasn't moved. The upper arrow only manages the FIRST highlighted line. 'Notes' isn't highlighted so it's not affected by either arrow.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="104.PNG" style="width: 537px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1565685iD6E0F9CB13DAAE51/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="104.PNG" alt="104.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dragging both the upper and lower arrows makes&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;ALL&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;highlighted lines move to the right. Since both arrows are in the same position on the ruler, all highlighted lines will be aligned with the same ident. If you move the arrows to 2 different positions, Line 1 will will be aligned with the upper arrow and Lines 2, 3, 4, etc. will be aligned with the lower arrow. The upper arrow only manages Line 1 of the highlighted text. 'Notes' isn't highlighted so it's not affected by either arrow.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="105.PNG" style="width: 538px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1565684i99F851954E0D0B07/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="105.PNG" alt="105.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2025 01:33:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ChicagoLooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-09-01T01:33:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do those rulers at the top of the MTEXT box work?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background: var(--ck-color-mention-background); color: var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3181309"&gt;@KDAddison&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Did the information provided answer your question? If so, please use Accept Solution so that others may find this in the future. Thank you very much!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2025 12:25:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CGBenner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-09-02T12:25:05Z</dc:date>
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