https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/operating-systems/m-p/5456683#M344966 Dear JDMather:<BR /><BR />So thus far, it turns out that the seller, who got $ 157. and change<BR />including $ 12. and change for shipping, when I won the bid on eBay (I was<BR />the only bidder) for $ 145.00.; is located in Brewer, Maine, and e-mailed<BR />me a couple of days ago claiming he thought the AutoCAD R 12 stuff weighed<BR />only twelve pounds, but instead it weighed twenty pounds, and could I<BR />please voluntarily send him $ 10. more via PayPal, for the added shipping<BR />he incurred to send it, but if not, he'll understand.<BR /><BR />And I am thinking, SOFTWARE that weighs twenty pounds?? Or even two<BR />pounds?? Let alone twelve pounds! Aren't software CD's like, a fraction<BR />of an ounce, each??<BR /><BR />So when this tracking number from UPS finally shows up, I will be very<BR />interested to see what's inside. I am glad I kept the transaction entirely<BR />within eBay, so I can return it and get my money refunded if it turns out<BR />not to be AutoCAD R 12 as the picture in the ad showed, a bunch of discs<BR />and an owner's manual that software typically comes with from the<BR />publisher. I have a Windows 32-bit OS that I'm hoping will run the 16-bit<BR />AutoCAD.<BR /><BR />I used AutoCAD R 12 and R 13 day-in and day-out in my job for seven months<BR />in 1995 and again R 14 for thirteen months straight in 1999 - 2000, but got<BR />discouraged about engineering and worked non-engineering jobs for eight<BR />years, then returned to the profession as a highway inspector for the past<BR />seven construction seasons. Everyone hiring these days for<BR />engineering-related (which the state engineer boards make a very careful<BR />distinction between technician and engineering type work) drafters<BR />want RECENT AutoCAD training. And I refuse to go into huge debt for<BR />upwards of $ 700. per credit-hour taking a college course somewhere that<BR />requires sitting in classrooms, for something that'll take two years or<BR />more to show any possible results.<BR /><BR />It's hands-on practice with AutoCAD I am seeking; and having the software<BR />running I will be able hopefully to play around with it at will. Not<BR />immediate drafting productivity.<BR /><BR />Sincerely,<BR /><BR /><BR /><BR />- Claymont, Delaware<BR /><BR />Jack Nelson Thu, 01 Jan 2015 21:03:05 GMT Anonymous 2015-01-01T21:03:05Z