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Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:57:13 GMT

How to change attribute of multiple instances of a block while keeping the rotation and position of the attribute?

Example:

I have multiple instances of a block (too many to edit them one by one, also with use of properties palette) with a certain attribute and I want to change the text height.

The blocks have different rotations and the attributes also.

If I edit the block and change the attribute's text height and then synchronize the specific attribute changes, like rotation and position, also change.

Is there a way to only change, in this example, the text height and keeping the rotation and position of the attribute?

Kind regards,

Bart

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

pendean — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:02:09 GMT

Did you manually rotate the atributes that flip back? ATTSYNC is doing what you tell it to do, sync (aka completely match up) all the other blocks/attributes to the one you picked as the control.

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

imadHabash — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:07:30 GMT

Hi,

Try BATTMAN ..

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

braudpat — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:23:01 GMT

Hello stblb

If I understand well :

- You edit Block and especially Attributes , you save the new block definition then Exit ...

- Then BATTMAN to synchronize old blocks previously inserted !

and you loose specific rotation, specific position, specific height on some attributes !?

I am right ???

Regards, Patrice (I am not an Autodesk Advisor)

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:44:23 GMT

@pendean wrote:
Did you manually rotate the atributes that flip back? ATTSYNC is doing what you tell it to do, sync (aka completely match up) all the other blocks/attributes to the one you picked as the control.

Yes I manually rotated the attribute of some instances of the block, and yes i know that's the purpose of attsync, my question is what other solution exists?

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:46:55 GMT

battman also does a sync, so manual changes of an attribute are reset, so not the solution I'm looking for, I need Super-attribute-man i think 🙂

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

pendean — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:23:40 GMT

Might be time to ask in the LISP customization forum http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-customization/ct-p/AutoCADTopic1

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

braudpat — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:33:58 GMT

Hello from France

Please try this French Routine SYN from Patrick_35 (A French Developper)

I have tried (I am not a delopper) to do minimum translation but a few French words/options remain ... Sorry !

This SYN routine does about the same thing as BATTMAN but let you keep in place some properties of attributes !

You have to select which properties you want to keep ...

Let me know if this routine runs correctly on your US/English AutoCAD !?

Regards, Patrice (I am not an Autodesk Advisor)

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

braudpat — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:56:52 GMT

Hello pendean

Thanks for the Kudos !

Have you tested the SYN routine on your US/English ACAD ?

If YES, SYN does the job !?

Regards, Patrice (I am not an Autodesk Advisor)

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:51:36 GMT

Hello from Belgium 🙂

I tried that LISP routine, the rotation (angle) keeps the same but it does move altough I marked the "position" checkbox.

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

braudpat — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:56:13 GMT

Hello

It works for me ! ... Tested on a standard block with 2 attributes moved and with a new height and a specific rotation !

Attributes which have been moved, remain at their new position !

I know a minor bug, if you have forced color on some attributes they are resetted to the original color

But I don't force color on attributes ...

Maybe you can share with us a part of your DWG with a few blocks and some attributes moved ?

Regards, Patrice (I am not an Autodesk Advisor)

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:26:43 GMT

As extra test I started a new drawing, I made a new block with an attribute, copied the block a few times, some with atttribute rotated and moved and one with attribute moved, rotated and changed text height.

If I than edit the block and sync it with that lisp attribute sync instead of with "attsync", the same happens as I would do that with "attsync" because of an error I saw now:

Command: SYN

ATTSYNC complete pour le bloc TEST att.
Erreur : Automation Error. Object was erased

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

braudpat — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:47:35 GMT

Hello

I have retested with my French MAP 2014 + SP2 with a block made of one rectangle and one standard attribute : no problem !

Please could you test with my DWG and my SYN routine ... Look at the ZIP file !?

Regards, Patrice (I am not an Autodesk Advisor)

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:39:32 GMT

With your drawing it works fine.

I found the reason of that other error, I also changed the attribute tag name, because there was also situation where a colleague wanted to change the original tag name but I guess the LISP looks for the original tag name.

So if I keep the original tag name and change only the height when editing block, and than sync with LISP the manually adjusted attributes keep their different kind of values, but only with my drawing I have the problem that the atts move a little for some reason.

I found another LISP routine that works for me (except if I want to change the tag name): http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/visual-lisp-autolisp-and-general/attribute-modifier-lisp/m-p/4701539#M317796

I will use this othe LISP if I want to change rotation, height, color or layer.

LISP for changing tag name I haven't found yet.

Thx for your help

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

braudpat — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:04:05 GMT

Hello

OK if your are happy, I am happy !

Are you looking for a routine to copy an attribute value to an other attribute (for example a NEW one just created with BEDIT and then BATTMAN or ATTSYNC or SYN routine or equivalent routine) ?

Or a routine to RENAME only the attribute Tag ?

Regards, Patrice (I am not an Autodesk Advisor)

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:44:24 GMT

Yes, there was a rare (maybe one time?) situation where a colleague needed to rename the attribute "tag name" and "prompt".

U also have a solution for this?

Regards,

Bart

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

braudpat — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:12:27 GMT

Hello Bart

Yes an other nice routine (RET) from Patrick_35 - I like RET, SYN, etc ...

The RET routine lets you rename the attribute tag completely or partially (Search and replace) ...

I hope this one will solve your problem !?

Regards, Patrice (I am not an Autodesk Advisor)

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:45:17 GMT

Nice, maybe I can add a function to rename the prompt if it works similar, someone plz make an all-in-one attribute changer LISP routine that would be even better 🙂

Maybe I can give it a try 🙂

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:43:51 GMT

The answer supplied seems to work fine - for a single block.

However hopefully some of the folks that answered and give a bit more of an explanation if there is one.

Here's the deal...

I have a light symbol block. I set up an attribute so that it's rotation doesn't change as was talked about. If I insert that block and rotate it, it works perfect. However, I work on larger scale projects where we will have a unit block for an apartment that block will be repeated throughout the building at various angles. So I drop into the unit block the correctly rotating attributed light fixture symbol and rotate the unit. Nothing. Doesn't rotate. Every fixture on every floor needs to be adjusted back to horizontal reading text. Huge time waste. And... if someone wants to change a block (yes these are architects - everything gets changed) then do a BATTMAN and once again you have to go through and re-rotate all of them again..

I tried setting up the text style as anno with it set to horizontal to the VP but that doesn't help either. Seems that it only applies to MText, etc not in a block, but doesn't apply to anything in a block.

Any other ideas??

Re: Change attribute of blocks keeping rotations and positions of the attributes

pendean — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 21:53:04 GMT

LISP forum is here if you want coding help https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-customization/ct-p/AutoCADTopic1