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I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 09:43:35 GMT

I suspect that some of my students do not perform the exercises individually AutoCAD.

Is there any way or any program or procedure to detect if a file contains portions of another file?

thanks

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cadwomen — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 10:28:26 GMT

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Re: I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

KimBrunz — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 11:53:00 GMT

Turn on Log File which gives a history of the commands invoked.

Options:Open and Save:File Safety Precaustions. Check Maintain a log file. This will create a log file for each drawing opened.

In Options:Files:Log File Location you can point to where you want the files saved.

Kim

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KimBrunz — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 11:55:21 GMT

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Re: I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

Kent1Cooper — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:37:46 GMT

@KimBrunz wrote:
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Re: I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

parkr4st — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:57:49 GMT

1 computer 2 monitors duplicate display

give em a good difficult drawing and watch the second monitor as they work

If they can't do it, they probably didn't do the homework themselves, flunk em.

dave

Re: I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

dany_rochefort — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 21:55:29 GMT

Having been thru drafting school, i can confirm 100% that your students are sharing or stealing each other' work to get through the course. If you are correcting drawings and you notice identical mistakes from student to student.... Then yeah, you might have a problem.

There are many ways to monitor their work and there have been good suggestions on this post.

You could ask them to "record" their work live using the Screencast Autodesk application. That way you could watch the recording of every student doing the work... This would also give you insight on who works well and who doesnt. That way you can shift your attention to those who need help and or are cheating.

You could also use the ID command to map a few coordinates of certain points in 2d or 3d space. Provided you havent specified where to locate the 0,0,0, everybody should have different coordinates for their respective drawings. If 4 students have concidentally started their work on coordinate 100,505,66 for example, then have them go buy some lottery tickets cause that is remarkable luck.

Other options included "Fields" that you could "hide" in pre-determined templates or hidden in "off layers". Fields can record tons of information (user/date/time/etc....) and they are automatically updated if they are properly set up...

And the basics, such as monitoring the drawing properties under the file tab...

If you correcting paper copies and you suspect cheating, overlay the drawings and hold them up to a light or a window... If they line up 100% you've caught cheaters...

Funnest post ever !

Re: I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

KimBrunz — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:04:45 GMT

Thanks Kent

Re: I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

dbroad — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:21:21 GMT

1) Are they doing the exercises in class or at home?

2) Is this a face-to-face, hybrid, or online class?

3) Do you have to give identical assignments to each student?

If in class, it should be easy to monitor unless you are tuned out.

If it is hybrid, provide a capstone that relies on skills learned with the daily assignments. This should be a proctored assignment. Make it more heavily weighted (home-formative, weighted lightly, in-class: summative, weighted heavily). If they've cheated on the home assignments, it won't matter because when it counts, they won't be able to do the work.

If online only and you don't need to give identical assignments, then vary the assignment instructions so that each student creates a unique drawing. For example, give a common complex project to each and ask each student to do a different part of it. Assignments should have equal difficulty but not be identical.

Most of my students want to learn and few, if any, cheat if they believe that the skill that is taught will be important to know for later work. The risk of cheating is proportional to level of frustration(feeling lost) and lack of time. To help with frustration and inability to do them, I provide videos that step beginners through how to do them.

They'll cheat in a heartbeat if its just busy work. Make sure to communicate why it's important that they actually learn something from the assignment besides how to copy.

Re: I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 15:13:41 GMT

Thanks for contributions to my request

Regarding how to teach and perform exercises autocad:

I explain in class every day three or four orders and students begin a drawing (in your notebook) in which they practice such orders (here some of the exercises: http://www.xtec.cat/~anogues/apunts/exercicis_cad/exercicis_cad.htm )
They start drawing in class but they do not have time to finish them, so they end in their home and, via e-mail, send it to me.

Re: I teach CAD. How to know if my students do copy and paste between them

dbroad — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:42:33 GMT

They look OK. I don't agree with how the watch dials would be drawn (I would use a 6 degree interval with centered marks. ). I would also try to avoid forcing students to enter numbers with 8 significant figures (3rd assignment) (That would get tedious unless you are just checking how well they can copy information from dimensions). Keep the focus on comand use, not tedium of dimensional entry.

You might try giving classwork and homework. The first few assignments should take less than 10 minutes each. So try to get some finished assignments that don't need to be taken home.