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    <title>topic Betreff: Can't figure out the scale/scale doesnt fit in paper space in AutoCAD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry, I thought I uploaded them but here you go.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 05:28:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>cuvastrucking</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-09-22T05:28:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Can't figure out the scale/scale doesnt fit in paper space</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/can-t-figure-out-the-scale-scale-doesnt-fit-in-paper-space/m-p/12258114#M28434</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've been trying to figure this out for days, and I just can't wrap my head around it and I'm so desperate that I'm taking my chances here. I'm required to make the model fit into 1:20 space, as my boss requires me to make it of that size as he measures it himself with a engineering scale, but for the life of me I can't make it fit. I've made drawing after drawing trying to get it work but its impossible for me, what am I doing wrong? Am I supposed to be doing something way more differently? Am I just using the wrong scales? Any help would be appreciated&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:45:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cuvastrucking</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-22T04:45:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Can't figure out the scale/scale doesnt fit in paper space</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/can-t-figure-out-the-scale-scale-doesnt-fit-in-paper-space/m-p/12258130#M28435</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wrong papersize&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Wrong viewport custom scale factor&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Wrong plotscale in your pagesetup/plot dialog&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Share one DWG and we can see &amp;amp;explain it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 05:01:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-22T05:01:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Can't figure out the scale/scale doesnt fit in paper space</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/can-t-figure-out-the-scale-scale-doesnt-fit-in-paper-space/m-p/12258155#M28436</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry, I thought I uploaded them but here you go.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 05:28:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cuvastrucking</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-22T05:28:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Can't figure out the scale/scale doesnt fit in paper space</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/can-t-figure-out-the-scale-scale-doesnt-fit-in-paper-space/m-p/12258376#M28437</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I assume when you wrote &lt;STRONG&gt;1:20&lt;/STRONG&gt; you're really saying &lt;STRONG&gt;1"=20'-0"&lt;/STRONG&gt;. This is the proper scale notation for &lt;STRONG&gt;Imperial&lt;/STRONG&gt; (foot inch) units. &lt;STRONG&gt;1:20&lt;/STRONG&gt; is the typical notation for &lt;STRONG&gt;Metric&lt;/STRONG&gt; units.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;MAESTROS_1 (1).dwg&lt;/STRONG&gt; is drawn using &lt;STRONG&gt;Architectural Imperial units&lt;/STRONG&gt; where &lt;STRONG&gt;1 unit = 1 inch&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your mistake was how you defined in the &lt;STRONG&gt;Scalelist: 1"20"&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This should be &lt;STRONG&gt;1" = 20'&lt;/STRONG&gt; = 12"x20' = &lt;STRONG&gt;240&lt;/STRONG&gt; inches:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="paullimapa_0-1695367780728.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1270029i7A995CA02AACFF4B/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="paullimapa_0-1695367780728.png" alt="paullimapa_0-1695367780728.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now when you apply this zoom scale factor onto your &lt;STRONG&gt;Layout1&lt;/STRONG&gt;'s (which I renamed as &lt;STRONG&gt;11x17-1-20&lt;/STRONG&gt;) &lt;STRONG&gt;Vport&lt;/STRONG&gt; it now fits on &lt;STRONG&gt;11x17&lt;/STRONG&gt; sheet of paper. I also inserted a &lt;STRONG&gt;1"=20'&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;graphic scale&lt;/STRONG&gt; for your boss to use this to help measure with an actual scale to confirm all the dimensions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="paullimapa_1-1695368251806.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1270033i2394DC1BF189E1AF/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="paullimapa_1-1695368251806.png" alt="paullimapa_1-1695368251806.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:40:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>paullimapa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-22T07:40:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Can't figure out the scale/scale doesnt fit in paper space</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I forgot to say, thank you so much, this really helped out! A quick question, would I need to make any changes to the drawing if he decides to print it out at 24x36?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 21:09:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cuvastrucking</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-22T21:09:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Can't figure out the scale/scale doesnt fit in paper space</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/can-t-figure-out-the-scale-scale-doesnt-fit-in-paper-space/m-p/12260244#M28439</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You are very welcome.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Since &lt;STRONG&gt;1"=20'-0"&lt;/STRONG&gt; fits perfectly on &lt;STRONG&gt;11x17&lt;/STRONG&gt; size paper, if he wants to waste paper and plot exactly the same scaled drawing onto&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;24x36&lt;/STRONG&gt;, then I would make a copy of the current layout and set that up on the new layout by doing the following:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1. Right mouse click on &lt;STRONG&gt;11x17-1-20&lt;/STRONG&gt; layout &amp;amp; on the cursor menu select&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Move or Copy&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="paullimapa_0-1695418846309.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1270454i99E275B867CECA1F/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="paullimapa_0-1695418846309.png" alt="paullimapa_0-1695418846309.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2. On the &lt;STRONG&gt;Move or Copy&lt;/STRONG&gt; window under &lt;STRONG&gt;Before layout:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;select &lt;STRONG&gt;(move to end)&lt;/STRONG&gt;,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;check &lt;STRONG&gt;Create a copy &lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;amp; c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;lick &lt;STRONG&gt;OK&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="paullimapa_1-1695418956106.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1270455iE53B60D10017B98C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="paullimapa_1-1695418956106.png" alt="paullimapa_1-1695418956106.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3. Select the copied layout tab now called &lt;STRONG&gt;11x17-1-20 (2)&lt;/STRONG&gt;, then right mouse click &amp;amp; this time&amp;nbsp;on the cursor menu choose &lt;STRONG&gt;Rename&lt;/STRONG&gt; and change the name to &lt;STRONG&gt;24x36-1-20&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4. Right mouse click on layout &lt;STRONG&gt;24x36-1-20 &lt;/STRONG&gt;and on the cursor menu select&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Page Setup Manager&lt;/STRONG&gt; or simply enter on the command line &lt;STRONG&gt;PAGESETUP&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;5. On the &lt;STRONG&gt;Page Setup Manager&lt;/STRONG&gt; window with the &lt;STRONG&gt;24x36-1-20 &lt;/STRONG&gt;layout&amp;nbsp;selected click &lt;STRONG&gt;Modify&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;6. In the &lt;STRONG&gt;Page Setup - 24x36-1-20&lt;/STRONG&gt; window change the &lt;STRONG&gt;Paper size&lt;/STRONG&gt; to &lt;STRONG&gt;ARCH D (36.00 x 24.00 Inches)&lt;/STRONG&gt; and click &lt;STRONG&gt;OK &lt;/STRONG&gt;and &lt;STRONG&gt;Close&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="paullimapa_2-1695419515360.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1270456iDFCF03C75B38CFEE/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="paullimapa_2-1695419515360.png" alt="paullimapa_2-1695419515360.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;7. Now do a &lt;STRONG&gt;ZOOM All&lt;/STRONG&gt; and you'll see the same &lt;STRONG&gt;1"=20'-0"&lt;/STRONG&gt; scaled&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Vport&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;down on the lower left hand corner of the 36x24 sheet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="paullimapa_3-1695419733784.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1270457i86F15459667155D5/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="paullimapa_3-1695419733784.png" alt="paullimapa_3-1695419733784.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Right away you'll see how much paper will be wasted assuming you've setup your plotter to print out blank spaces in a set paper size.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 21:55:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>paullimapa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-22T21:55:58Z</dc:date>
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