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Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:21:12 GMT

Hello, I am looking for some advice of help from someone who can tell the the thruth about running Autocad 2016 on Windows 10 using Bootcamp on Macbook pro. Are there any issues ? how is the performance? Does windows 10 perform well on the mac ? Does Autocad 2015 perform well on Windows 10 ?

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

pendean — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:50:17 GMT

>>>...Does Autocad 2015 perform well on Windows 10...<<<
http://autode.sk/1IY4C2X

Any reason you're not switching to AutoCAD FOR MAC with your shiny expensive MacBook Pro instead of hobbling that hardware with "bootcamp"?

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:39:14 GMT

Yea, all my classes do not support autocad on Mac, also most of my
consultants use Autocad on Windows

Don't want to change the wheel even though I already have Autocad for MAC

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

john.vellek — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:45:05 GMT

HI @Anonymous,

I have AutoCAD 2017 running in Windows 7 on Bootcamp without any issues so far.

I know that Win 10 also runs on the Macbook but I have not tried that yet. If you are going to run 2015 make sure you get all the service packs applied. Windows 10 and AutoCAD 2017 also has some issues with legacy wide format printers.

Pre-Installed: Boot Camp is already installed on your Mac (post-2006), so you already have what you need to run Windows
System Performance: When running Windows with Boot Camp, you're taking full advantage of your hardware (RAM, graphics card, etc).
Mac File Access: Although you cannot run Mac applications in Windows, Boot Camp does provide read-only access to files stored on your Mac OS X partition.

Please hit the Accept as Solution button if my post fully solves your issue or answers your question.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

wispoxy — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:03:41 GMT

It better not work, especially if you have a brand new Mac Book Pro. Apple stopped support with Windows 7 bootcamp awhile ago, like two or three years ago. I think it happened around the time that new OSX came out.

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/20/new-macbook-pro-air-no-windows-7-bootcamp/

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204923

Read these instructions.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205016

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

john.vellek — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:06:28 GMT

Hi @wispoxy, Yes, you are correct that it can no longer be installed but that is my current configuration even though it is not supported on newer Macs. I just wanted to indicate that AutoCAD 2017 was working fine in that environment.

I believe it might still be possible to install Windows 8.1 on Bootcamp but the push, of course, is to Windows 10. As I can't duplicate that configuration I cannot offer any advice to the OP one way or another for running it that way.

I will say that I personally would avoid other products that allow Windows virtualization as this limits the resources available to AutoCAD.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:07:37 GMT

Hell John, well apparently my new Macbook Pro no longer supports Windows 7 on bootcamp. My Macbook Pro has certain hardware that will not be compatible via drivers in windows 7. So it only allows me to install windows 10. With that being said I would to speak to someone or get help from someone who is currentlty running Autocad 2016 in Windows 10 on their MacBook Pro.

I would like to know of any issues if any and how does the computer perform ?

Thanks

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

john.vellek — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:24:28 GMT

I don't know anyone internally that is running Windows 10 on a MacBook Pro. I suggest that the better place to look for that might be on Apple's site.

As far as AutoCAD 2017 running in Windows 10, it is a supported product and for the most part seems to be running fine for the customers I have been in touch with. Here is an article that details Autodesk products in relation to Windows 10.

The only concerns I would have is if you have enough resources such as disk space and RAM for the OS and AutoCAD, Windows 10 printer drivers for any wide-format devices you use, and finally how well the Graphics card works in AutoCAD. The Radeon card is not on the certified list and I have no experience or customer experience that I can share regrading the graphics card.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

wispoxy — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:02:03 GMT

@john.vellek We're good, I understand. Wasn't calling you wrong.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:05:47 GMT

Thank you John and everyone for their help. You are correct in term of the AMD graphics card that is installed on my MacBook Pro. That is the one concern that i have because i want Autocad to run efficiently. I am currently installing windows 10 in bootcamp. Then i will install Autocad and see if it works

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

john.vellek — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:08:54 GMT

HI @Anonymous,

If you have Win10 up and running give a Trial of AutoCAD 2017 a shot on it. Make sure you play with some 3D, some rendering, attaching files, wipeouts, etc to make sure things are performing for you properly.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

wispoxy — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:58:41 GMT

Bootcamp will work with windows 10.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

john.vellek — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:32:04 GMT

Hi @Anonymous,

I am actively trying to get this configuration setup on my work Mac. Once I have, I will share my opinion on how well AutoCAD 2017 behaves in this environment.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

Anonymous — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:32:02 GMT

Thanks @john.vellek.

I have installed Windows 10 on my Mac and it seems to be running really stable. The down side is the sizing of the fonts and display needed to be adjusted.

I have installed AutoCAD2016 and its updates for Windows 10, one down side that i see off the bat is the sizing of font for the program. I will be restarting

my computer due to the fact that some updates still need to be completely installed. One major concern that I have is the graphics card. A yellow boxed

pop-up stating that my graphics card is not compatible, i hope this is just hiccup that can be fix.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

john.vellek — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:08:42 GMT

HI @Anonymous,

I am glad you are updating your post. Can you tell me which graphics card you have in your Mac? I have seen in my own experience that the warning doesn't necessarily mean things won't work. Have you also installed all the available drivers from Apple for the configuration?

It has been a while since i have done this type of install but if I recall correctly I had to go find additional drivers to get everything happy.

[Edit]

I just got Win10 installed and both AutoCAD 2016 and 2017 (with all hotfixes and service packs installed). I do not seem to have the graphics card issue you are seeing. Make sure that from the Start Button>Apple> you check for updates as mine had three available which included a Graphics card driver.

So far performance seems fine and I have no issues in AutoCAD. I will update the post as I continue to work on this configuration.

Please hit the Accept as Solution button if my post fully solves your issue or answers your question.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 04:18:11 GMT

My MacBook Pro 15

The MacBook Pro "Core i7" 2.8 15-Inch (Dual Graphics/Force Touch - Mid-2015 Retina Display) features a 22 nm "Haswell/Crystalwell" 2.8 GHz Intel "Core i7" processor (4980HQ), with four independent processor "cores" on a single silicon chip, a 6 MB shared level 3 cache, 16 GB of onboard 1600 MHz DDR3L SDRAM (which cannot be upgraded later), 512 GB of PCIe-based flash storage, and dual graphics processors -- an AMD Radeon R9 M370X with 2 GB of dedicated GDDR5 memory and an integrated Intel Iris 5200 Pro graphics processor with 128 MB of "Crystalwell" embedded DRAM (and shared system memory). It also has an integrated 720p FaceTime HD webcam and a high-resolution LED-backlit 15.4" widescreen 2880x1800 (220 ppi) "Retina" display in a case that weighs just less than 4.5 pounds (2.04 kg). It does not have an internal optical drive.

My laptop currently has all the drivers updated, one thing i do notice is that the fonts in certain boxes are still small

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

pendean — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 04:43:14 GMT

AutoCAD for Windows is NOT designed to run on high res displays: stock HD format (1080) is the max. Is that your issue?

Other than your class, AutoCAD for MAC files and fully interchangeable with Windows users and it looks great on high res monitors too.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

john.vellek — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:38:33 GMT

Hi @Anonymous, My MacBook has the same Graphics configuration. The error you see, is that just in AutoCAD? If you check your graphics Performance in AutoCAD, which Video Card is it showing? Is it the Intel or the AMD?

@pendean is correct about the Hi-res display issue. You might want to change your display settings per this article.

Please hit the Accept as Solution button if my post fully solves your issue or answers your question.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

wispoxy — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 14:29:34 GMT

Noticed the same issue. Icons are way too small on MacBook Pro (Hi-Res) Retina Display. If you change your display settings, then the Mac Icons get to big. You'll have to size down your (quick access) icons too, and I recommend setting up desktop states as available with the new OSX update.

Re: Purchased a Macbook Pro and apperantly bootcamp cannot support windows 7

john.vellek — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:04:42 GMT

Hi @Anonymous,

I am checking back to see if my posts helped you with your problem. Please add a post with your results so other Forum users can benefit.

Please hit the Accept as Solution button if my post fully solves your issue or answers your question.