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Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

bmallc — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:12:17 GMT

Suddenly, after all was fine last night, all items I select say they are 0., Or, if I draw a new line in 0, and go to layers list, select it, and "change" it to another layer, its properties don't change, but the working layer changes to that layer. WHAT IS GOING ON? And why do things change suddenly without apparent cause?

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:16:45 GMT

@bmallc wrote:
Suddenly, after all was fine last night, all items I select say they are 0., Or, if I draw a new line in 0, and go to layers list, select it, and "change" it to another layer, its properties don't change, but the working layer changes to that layer. WHAT IS GOING ON? And why do things change suddenly without apparent cause?

Post your dwg for the group to have a look at.

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

john.vellek — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:25:50 GMT

Hi @bmallc,

I suspect that your entities are on Layer 0 and that the layer is locked.

Please attach your file so I can take a look to see if this is correct or if there is another issue at the root of the problem.

Please hit the Accept as Solution button if my post fully solves your issue or answers your question.

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

bmallc — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:26:05 GMT

If you mean I should attach the dwg, I attach it here. Or if you can elaborate on what you mean by "post the dwg", please let me know.

Thanks,

BRM

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

bmallc — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:29:25 GMT

No, the layer is not locked. And it's the same case in the drawing into which this drawing is xrefed. Somehow every line "thinks" its layer 0. And I can't seem to change it, even by Matchrproperties.

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

john.vellek — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:35:09 GMT

Hi @bmallc,

I opened your drawing and it appears that you have objects on multiple layers. I am able to change object properties on any of them including color and layer. I am uploading a Screencast so you can see what I am seeing.

Can you describe how your experience is different or perhaps include a screencast of screen capture?

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

rkmcswain — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:35:30 GMT

Set PICKFIRST to 1.

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

bmallc — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:45:04 GMT

aAAaaahh.. Pickfirst!!! Thank you thank you thank you! That does it! Thanks you guys. Now, can someone tell me how the heck such things change from last night to tonight? Or is there some way to "lock" my controls so that I don't have sudden wacky changes to my preferences?

Very grateful to you both.

BRM

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

rkmcswain — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:58:45 GMT

If there is one variable that should not be allowed to change from 1 unless the user responds to TWO confirmation dialogs, it's PICKFIRST. (and FILEDIA is right behind that.)

The new System Variable Monitor **should** have included a feature that let you "lock" a variable's value down - but we'll keep waiting...

So to answer your question, who knows? Any kind of 3rd party routine (.lsp/.dll/.arx) could change it and forget to change it back, even the built in Publish command is known to change FILEDIA and not restore it under certain conditions. Unless you know the moment it happens, it's hard to tell.

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

bmallc — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:04:52 GMT

Well, I never heard of FILEDIA either! If I had a nickel for all the existential angst I've endured at the hands of this diabolical program.... well, I wouldn't be here thanking you, RKMcswain! sheesh! Thank you again.

(Is it time for a cocktail yet?)

BRM

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

Kent1Cooper — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:58:03 GMT

@bmallc wrote:

.... Or is there some way to "lock" my controls so that I don't have sudden wacky changes to my preferences?

....

As mentioned, it could be some routine doing it to you. If you can't figure out how to prevent it or find such a routine and built the resetting into it, one thing you might at least do is to build the forcing of them to your preferred settings every time you open a drawing, by setting them in an acaddoc.lsp file. That way, they may get changed while you're working, but at least after you've closed a drawing, they will be reset when you open it again.

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

elshawadfy — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 03:31:44 GMT

Hi @bmallc,

Pickadd changes accidentally a lot because there is an icon in the properties palette right beside the drop down menu at the top, with a + sign on it, It changes PickAdd, and it's very easy to press accidentally..

I don't know why is it in such exposed place?? I have never ever changed it deliberately in all my 15+ years using Autocad.. (except to fix it back, that is 🙂 )

Regards

Re: Suddenly All Layers are 0? Can't change Layers

User_2011 — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:55:36 GMT

How about this? All layers are 0...