https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6544943#M262440 First you need to set your viewport to match your modelspace, right? Enter your viewport and start SHADEMODE command to pick a setting that matches your modelspace. I'll assume your UCS is already rotated but if not do so in the viewport as well with UCS command. Tue, 06 Sep 2016 16:37:00 GMT pendean 2016-09-06T16:37:00Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6544028#M262439 <P>model space is in 3d conceptual but shows as a 2d image in layout, how do I print a 3d version please.</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Tue, 06 Sep 2016 10:50:59 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6544028#M262439 Anonymous 2016-09-06T10:50:59Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6544943#M262440 First you need to set your viewport to match your modelspace, right? Enter your viewport and start SHADEMODE command to pick a setting that matches your modelspace. I'll assume your UCS is already rotated but if not do so in the viewport as well with UCS command. Tue, 06 Sep 2016 16:37:00 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6544943#M262440 pendean 2016-09-06T16:37:00Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6574877#M262441 <P>Sorry for the delay, been on hols, In paper view the viewport does match the model space, not sure what you mean about UCS though. How do you enter model space?, if you mean plot then shaded is greyed out. Sorry for sounding bewildered but as you can guess I am new to MEP.&nbsp;</P> Wed, 21 Sep 2016 07:18:02 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6574877#M262441 Anonymous 2016-09-21T07:18:02Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6575521#M262442 double-click inside a viewport to "enter it": this is basic AutoCAD, not unqiue to MEP. Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:16:52 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/plot-a-3d-view/m-p/6575521#M262442 pendean 2016-09-21T13:16:52Z