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Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

oskar.saether — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 10:09:19 GMT

I have a .DWT template as a drawing-header with a block with attributes.

When plottning to PDF:

When the DWT is plotted, the text looks different than when I am using the template in a layout in a DWG file. I have not changed the block in the template, and in block editor it shows the text has the same text-style and font as in the original dwt.

The text is looking very thin in the wrong-looking plot, it should look more bold(see attached images).

- The attached file "dwt plot(correct) is the "correct" look, how the text in the plot looks when I open the .DWT file itself.

- The attached file "dwt plot(wrong) is how it looks in a dwg file I made.

- I am using the same plottning style table(default Monochrome)

- The text style is Romans and font is romans.shx in both the DWT and the DWG(as attached image).

If I copy the .dwt title block into the dwg file, it shows up wrong(very thin) when plotting the dwg's layout.

If i copy the title block directly from the dwg file into the dwt file, the text in that block plots correct(bold) when plottning the dwt layout.

What could be the problem for this?

Best regards

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

paullimapa — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 10:56:23 GMT

Could you share your dwt?

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

oskar.saether — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 11:29:43 GMT

heres the dwt

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

pendean — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:45:17 GMT

This is your chosen PDF Viewer's display limitation/problem, it has nothing to do with your DWT

Share that PDF here please. Or just use a different PDF viewer and see for yourself, any Webbrowser that is not 10+years old on your PC can view PDF files today.

No issue, right?

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

oskar.saether — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 15:00:08 GMT

Well no?

Beacuse I plot with the same plot settings in the two different files, with the same printer/plotter. But the results in how the text looks if you compare the files are different, whatever PDF viewer i choose

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

cadffm — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 15:13:51 GMT

Share ~~that~~ both PDF here please

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

oskar.saether — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 07:08:57 GMT

Here's both pdf

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

cadffm — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 08:47:07 GMT

Hi Oskar,

1. You are right, they are really different

and it is not just a lineweight thing: One is unsing the ttf, the other one using the .shx font

and it isn't just a Romans Problem, ISOCP aswell (check the lower left part of A1_BH90).

2. BUT you should share a pdf of the .dwt and of a new .dwg, based on this .dwt!

Your samples are not from/based the same .dwt file (or edited)

orange: You could draw this additional after creation the new DWG

red: In DWG you have IndexZ,

In DWT you have Index -, it is a stupif MText and also if you would draw a Z on Top,

we should be see the original "-", but there is nothing then Z

so it is fact, the block(s) are not the same.

3. OR the DWG content was edited (automatically?) <Customization / nothing the program does on its own>.

Why we can see the orange parrts? A New .DWG based on your .DWT should show they

Please run this test,

Open this file

draw a Circle on top of the title

Type in

Command: _.QSAVE

Command: _.CL_OSE

Command: _.NEW

Select this file

You can see the Circle?

Command: _.QSAVE

share the .DWG

And you can search for the problem on your side:

What is your Prodct and Version? Share a Screenshot of your _.ABOUT dialog

please

acad.lsp or acaddoc.lsp or other custom stuff running?

Please start Acad in /safemode and try it again:

https://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2024/ENU/?guid=GUID-8E54B6EC-5B52-4F62-B7FC-0D4E1EDF093A

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

oskar.saether — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:38:49 GMT

I'm sorry, but yes the dwt(block) is changed. I forgot that. I changed the "-" to a text ("Z"). The block is originally based on the .dwt block but those two changes is made.

Could that be enough to change the text so that it looks different? Even if its the same text-style and font?

What I am asking for is if there could be maybe a text or plot setting that I maybe have accidently changed for the text to not look like it does in the original .dwt anymore.

And the "circle test" you mentioned, I hope i understood that correct. If so, yes the circle is visible in both the DTW and DWG

Edit:

About your orange markings:

Those lines are viewport-lines later added in dwg.

And the north arrow and scalebar are also later added into the dwg

I am attaching the About page.

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

cadffm — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:42:15 GMT

If the problem still appears in pdf of dwt and dwg (with the circle) ,

i have no ideas.

No, there is no setting to use ttf instead shx font.

This is possible if you create the pdfs on different machines, but not if you do this in the same session.

Crazy.

Last test:

Take the DWG abd SAVEAS dwt, close

Open the new .dwt

Create pdf - Does it look like the dwg-pdf or the original dwt-pdf?

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

oskar.saether — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 11:00:11 GMT

Nope the results is the same(thin text) when saving as new dwt... 😞

Re: Same text-style(font) in different files plots different

pendean — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 13:14:21 GMT

RECAP:

DWGPLOT.PDF as noted by others is using and has imbedded in it TTF fonts ArialMT and RomanS_IV50
DWT-PLOT.PDF has no font embedded, and they all look like SHX fonts.

You are comparing apples with bananas. The fonts are always going to look different.

You have a lot of testing at your end to do: start with deciding which font(s) you wish to use then implement across all of your drawings and template files.