topic Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric! in AutoCAD Forum

Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:25:53 GMT

Hello all,

. . . . I have two different versions of the drawings that I am making. One is in Imperial and the other is in Metric. I can set up the Inches drawing to print in a 1:1 ration. I have not been able to accomplish this with the Metric drawing. Can someone please help me find out what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,

rich!

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 03:14:15 GMT

hi,

hope i understand what you mean.

if you want to convert a imperial drawing to metric drawing.

method A

1. save it as a new drawing (as the metric one).

2. command: units > change the units to mm.

3. scale all you drawing objects up to 25.4 from a base point.

(in imperial drawing is using inches, 1 means 1 inch)

and 1 inch = 25.4mm

thats why you need to scale it up.

method B

1. new a drawing with metric template.

2. copy everything from your imperial drawing to the new drawing.

of course you should double check the existing ucs and base value when copying.

3. same to method A

Hope it helps,

Bruce

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 00:14:49 GMT

Bruce,

. . . . No, but this will be very useful. I will try to clarify what I am trying to do. When I print the drawing that is in decimal inches I don't have any problem printing it in any ratio that I want including 1:1. When I try to print my drawing that is in metric mm and I try to print at a 1:1 ratio I only get a couple of very large lines on the page. Other ratios work correctly.

. . . . The other thing is that I would like to have the Dimensions displayed in both metric and imperial if this is possible.

Thanks,

rich!

@Anonymous wrote:
hi,

hope i understand what you mean.
if you want to convert a imperial drawing to metric drawing.

method A
1. save it as a new drawing (as the metric one).
2. command: units > change the units to mm.
3. scale all you drawing objects up to 25.4 from a base point.
(in imperial drawing is using inches, 1 means 1 inch)
and 1 inch = 25.4mm
thats why you need to scale it up.

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 00:39:29 GMT

Rich,

You seems want to use the same drawing but can print with metric and imperial at the same time?

I assume you can use 2 separate drawing file.

Drawing A (Imperial template):

draft it normally but text, dimension and your object should use different layer.

Drawing B (Metric template):

Attach "Drawing A" as reference file.

scale the reference file up to 25.4

freeze the imperial dimension and text

create new layers for metric dimension and text and redraft them on "Drawing B"

I never try it by I think it is work.

Hope this helpul,

Bruce

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 01:21:58 GMT

Bruce,

. . . . Let's try again. Forget the drawing that is in decimal inches. Let's concentrate on the metric drawing. I want to print at a 1:1 ratio. It prints fine at a lot of different ratios but it does not print correctly at a 1:1 ration. When I try to print at 1:1 I just end up with two long lines on the paper.

Thanks,

rich!

@Anonymous wrote:
Rich,

You seems want to use the same drawing but can print with metric and imperial at the same time?
I assume you can use 2 separate drawing file.

Drawing A (Imperial template):
draft it normally but text, dimension and your object should use different layer.

Drawing B (Metric template):
Attach "Drawing A" as reference file.
scale the reference file up to 25.4
freeze the imperial dimension and text
create new layers for metric dimension and text and redraft them on "Drawing B"

I never try it by I think it is work.

Hope this helpul,
Bruce

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 03:24:02 GMT

can you upload you drawing file to here

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 03:41:42 GMT

Bruce,

. . . . Sure, here you go!

Thanks,

rich!

@Anonymous wrote:
can you upload you drawing file to here

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 04:39:20 GMT

You attached 2 DWG seems the same one?

It is metric (mm).

For you ...........the left hand side dimension 19 means what units? Inched? mm?

What is the value in you imperial drawing?

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 04:49:46 GMT

Bruce,

. . . . Sorry about that. Yes, they are identical and this is the metric version. It is in mm. Do you want the imperial version? It is in decimal inches out to 4 places. It is the metric version that won't print correctly when the ratio is 1:1. I am printing to a HP LJ 1100. I don't own a plotter but I may change that. I also found monitor mounts that would allow me to have up to 4 monitors on one stand. I am thinking about that.

Thanks,

rich!

@Anonymous wrote:
You attached 2 DWG seems the same one?

It is metric (mm).
For you ...........the left hand side dimension 19 means what units? Inched? mm?

What is the value in you imperial drawing?

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:03:46 GMT

I would like to know the distance 19 in your metric drawing is inches or mm to you?

When we tell AutoCAD distance=1, for the 1:1 real object, it depends on what units you using.

as 1 inch = 25.4mm

So if you created a object by imperial inch template but print it in mm, you have to scale your object up 25.4 bigger.

So if you created a object by metric mm template but print it in inches, you have to scale your object down 1/25.4 smaller.

if i assume your 19 means inches to you, then you need to scale your object up 25.4 bigger.

As 19 inch should be equal to 19inch x 25.4mm = 482.6mm, 19inch=482.6mm

so your dimension in metric drawing should shown 482.6.

when you object's size is correct then you should no problem to print it out in 1 to 1 scale.

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:20:54 GMT

Bruce,

1. The units that I am using for this drawing is in mm.

2. Well I used the metric template that was supplied by AutoCAD in the setup program.

3. It should be 25.4 mm = i inch.

4. See 2 and 3 above.

5. I thought that when I selected the plot command that at the 1:1 ratio it would be printing in mm. It could be possible that I am sending it to the printer as inches instead, but I don't see how.

6. The 19 is 19mm.

7. See all of the above.

8. Same as 7.

9. Again same as 7.

. . . . I hope that this is clearer than mud.

Thanks,

rich!

@Anonymous wrote:
1. I would like to know the distance 19 in your metric drawing is inches or mm to you?

2. When we tell AutoCAD distance=1, for the 1:1 real object, it depends on what units you using.

3. as 1 inch = 25.4mm

4. So if you created a object by imperial inch template but print it in mm, you have to scale your object up 25.4 bigger.
5. So if you created a object by metric mm template but print it in inches, you have to scale your object down 1/25.4 smaller.

6. if i assume your 19 means inches to you, then you need to scale your object up 25.4 bigger.
7. As 19 inch should be equal to 19inch x 25.4mm = 482.6mm, 19inch=482.6mm
8. so your dimension in metric drawing should shown 482.6.

9. when you object's size is correct then you should no problem to print it out in 1 to 1 scale.

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

kite15 — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:21:24 GMT

Hello mechanic 2,

Try from plot setup window see the attached snap...

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:32:50 GMT

If you measure the distance between that 2 line (between that 19 dimension) in the both imperial and metric drawing has 25.4 times different.

That means your objects is in correct size.

Then should be the printing setting problem.

Try the method posted by Kite 15.

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 05:52:26 GMT

Kite,

. . . . I just tried this. Same results. In the page setup manager, I set the ratio to 1:1, Yes, the next selection down was set to inches and I changed it to mm, the third selection can not be changed and it is set to 0.03937 unit. Let me clarify that a little bit. I can change the number: 0.039... but the unit part is not changeable. Otherwise I can't change 'unit' to 'mm'. I hope that that helps.

Thanks,

rich!

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 06:03:55 GMT

Are you plot your drawing in model space? or paperspace?

please also upload you imperial drawing.

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

kite15 — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 06:05:34 GMT

Hi mechanic_2,

Initially we have to clear about the Metric paper size and Imperial paper size. If you are not selected the correct paper size as respective of current drawing unit its may trouble during the plotting from the layout. The ratio will be automatically changed as you selected the unit (i.e. 1/25.4 = 0.0393700787401575). Since you are selected the imperial paper size and want to plotted in metric. So, you have to change the paper size and plotting size as per ratio to plotting with 1:1 (Inch/mm). Further more you have to follow the imperial paper size for plotting in Inches and Metric for mm..

Thanks,

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 06:17:46 GMT

Kite,

These are my available paper sizes. It is a scrn Prt in Word 2000 .Doc format. I hope that you can read it. Which one should I select?

Thanks,

rich!

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 06:22:01 GMT

Bruce,

. . . . I'm sorry but I don't understand the question! I need more info. Remember even though I used ACAD ten years ago, for all practical purposes I am a complete newbie at this. Here is the Imperial drawing.

Thanks,

rich!

@Anonymous wrote:
Are you plot your drawing in model space? or paperspace?
please also upload you imperial drawing.

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 06:37:24 GMT

I can print your drawing well in 1:1 scale in a PDF.

when I change the plotting unit from inch to mm it just prompt "annotation scale is not same to plot scale" just click continuous.

Then change by hand the scale to 1:1 not 0.039XXXX?

you using metric and mm printing, so no need to calculation. 1 to 1 is 1 to 1

See my attachment about plot settings.

Re: Can't print in 1:1 mode in metric!

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 06:40:00 GMT

sorry i miss the pdf in last post