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Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Aaron.Abbott — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 20:15:11 GMT

Hello, I am wanting to do something in AutoCAD 2022 that I was able to do in the 2018 version. When panning with the middle mouse button, any object in a layer that was underneath a wipeout would reveal itself. It made it really easy for me to see several details quickly when I wanted, while keeping what I mostly wanted to see in the front automatically. For some reason when I pan using the middle mouse button now, nothing is revealed beneath wipeouts. Is there a setting that will bring this feature back?

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

pendean — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 20:31:55 GMT

Wipeouts have never done that for me in any AutoCAD year version, ever: very interesting.
Still cannot get it to do that in 2023 or 2024 here.

Did you change or upgrade/update your PC? Or Autodesk could have just fix the flaw since they mess with the graphics engine with every newer version.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Aaron.Abbott — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 20:36:59 GMT

I did update my PC. I have used a couple of PC's with the 2018 and (I believe) the 2013 version. They all worked the same, and it was really convenient. If I wanted to see any item layered beneath a wipeout, I could do it instantly by slightly panning with the middle mouse button. If this isn't possible, do you know of any other way to quickly see all objects underneath wipeouts?

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

dmfrazier — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 20:48:07 GMT

What you have described is most likely a function of a combination of AutoCAD version, platform, and graphics driver. It strikes me as more of a "bug" than an intended "feature".

If GFXDX12 is on (=1), try turning it off (=0).

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Aaron.Abbott — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 20:58:54 GMT

That is so strange to hear that this could be a bug. It has always worked flawlessly that way for me, and it's been highly convenient.

Thank you for the suggestion. GFXDX12 = 0 did not change anything. If there is any other way to quickly see all layers beneath wipeouts, I would be thrilled to know about it.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

pendean — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 21:03:58 GMT

I'm not aware of any "peak behind a wipeout while panning" option in AutoCAD: my guess is your new PC has a more robust graphics card or Autodesk fixed the issue.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Aaron.Abbott — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 21:07:06 GMT

That's so strange. Maybe I just lucked out for ~9 years. I'll wait to see if anyone else has any other ideas before choosing an answer. Thank you both for all your help so far.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Patchy — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 21:51:04 GMT

If you type in PAN then use the wheel it will show, if you hold down the wheel and pan it won't show.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

ВeekeeCZ — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 08:30:56 GMT

It was probably common behavior back then. Just a quick search... THIS 1min14

Newer versions have suppressed this. BUT, it's still achievable - press the wheel and rotate it to change the zoom level (don't PAN). If you don't want to see it just for a split second, then turn off the grid. (GRIDMODE).

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

pendean — Tue, 07 Nov 2023 22:13:39 GMT

@ВeekeeCZ @Aaron.Abbott @Patchy @dmfrazier What's one person's wish to have is another person's wish to avoid: see one of many posts from back in the day

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/lines-and-objects-hidden-but-appear-during-pan-command/td-p/7323480#:~:text=The%20only%20way%20I%20know%20this%20is%20happening%20is%20the%20objects%20become%20visible%20during%20the%20PAN%20command.%C2%A0%20When%20I%20move%20the%20drawing%20around%2C%20I%20can%20see%20lines%20appear%20all%20over%20the%20drawing%20where%20there%20hadn%27t%20been%20any%20visible%20before.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Aaron.Abbott — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:09:00 GMT

Typing PAN unfortunately did not work.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Aaron.Abbott — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:10:26 GMT

Pressing the wheel and rotating it instead of panning does actually work. It's a little less convenient because of how much the screen changes even with one quick zoom from the middle mouse button, but it does work. I may just use that and get used to it. Thanks for providing that info.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Patchy — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:12:42 GMT

It works with 2008.

then I tried 2016 it works both ways.

I guess Autodesk disabled this feature.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Aaron.Abbott — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:13:55 GMT

That is interesting. When I first open the file, it behaves as they described when I pan with the middle mouse button. But strangely, after I perform that about 5-10 times, it no longer does it anymore. The lines that were revealed when I panned before no longer reveal themselves. And what's even more strange is that not all hidden lines behave the same way. There definitely seems to be a bug.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

Aaron.Abbott — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:15:11 GMT

If nothing else, it's a pretty strange bug. Thank you all for your help with this.

Re: Pan with middle mouse button to see all layers

ВeekeeCZ — Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:34:31 GMT

@Aaron.Abbott wrote:

Pressing the wheel and rotating it instead of panning does actually work. It's a little less convenient because of how much the screen changes even with one quick zoom from the middle mouse button, but it does work. I may just use that and get used to it. Thanks for providing that info.

A little experimenting could help... I was describing just a minimum that needs to be done to do the trick. But you actually can do more, possibly zoom one step in and one out...

Also I would not describe this as a bug. It was deliberately programmed somehow, later, probably with the 2020 version, they improved it.