topic Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file. in AutoCAD Forum

Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:28:07 GMT

Would like to be able to open multiple page layouts within the same file much like you can in REVIT. To my knowledge the tile vertically tool only opens different DWG files not different page layouts in the same DWG file. Am working on a floor plan that my changes actively effect a 3D isometric riser and I have to check the riser after each change to ensure both plans are population correctly. It would be very helpful if I could see these changes in a different window as I make them instead of going back and form from page layout to page layout.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

user181 — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:37:14 GMT

When you are in model space you can have multiple views at the same time. On the ribbons VIEW tab click the drop down on the VIEWPORT CONFIGURATION button and choose a configuration. Then you can set each view to be any view direction you want.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

pendean — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:30 GMT

AutoCAD does not have those REVIT abilities.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:44:08 GMT

Thats close to what I need, but it can't be in model space due to the way the architects set up the base layouts and everything is organized. I need to be able to do that in the paper sapce with different sheets

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

imadHabash — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:44:20 GMT

Hi,

i suggest to use QVLAYOUT for previewing layout tabs. try to follow this LINK and learn more.

Regards,

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:45:30 GMT

If it doesn't they need to consider adding at least that one. Its a pretty basic tool that would save lots of time switching between paper spaces. Thank you though, thats what I was wondering.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

oswaldodcb — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:19:15 GMT

Hello @Anonymous

We invite you to place this proposal in the IDEAS page, if it is well received by the users, the idea can be evaluated to be added to future versions of the software,

Regards,

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

john.vellek — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:26:07 GMT

Hi @Anonymous,

Actually, AutoCAD does not have an IDEA page for posting product specific feature requests.

You are welcome to contact the product team directly. If you have additional comments specific to the software or its functionality for future consideration, please use the Product Feedback page. How to provide feedback on Autodesk products goes into more detail.

Another great option is to participate in the AutoCAD Customer Council. This is an opportunity for our customers to partner with the AutoCAD development team to improve future releases of AutoCAD by giving continuous feedback on ideas, designs, and early builds.
In order to get involved email autocad.beta@autodesk.com or autocad.lt.council@autodesk.com

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:04:56 GMT

@john.vellek wrote:

Hi @Anonymous,

Actually, AutoCAD does not have an IDEA page for posting product specific feature requests.

but it should .............

🙂

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:21:58 GMT

How much time do you spend switching between spaces and why??

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:01:37 GMT

This particular project has 3d risers that are generated based on the floor plan. However it doesn't work very well and you have to check the riser after any changes made to the floor plan to ensure that the riser is usable when finished. I would prefer to just create risers by hand but this client doesn't like that. Therefore we have to switch back and forth from floor plan page to riser page after almost every adjustment.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:16:59 GMT

Stop making model adjustments in paperspace, do it in model space on the model tab. once all adjustments are complete, make the necessary adjustments in PS.

We separate the model from the drafting file entirely, no need to drag along the overhead of drafting with a 3D model, keeping the model as lean as possible for use in Navisworks or as a reference file. We then XREF the model into a drafting file for annotation and layout drafting

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:20:55 GMT

I can't do that. The 3D riser isn't even in the model space. Unless its somehow hidden. I'm not sure where it is generated but I've looked for it in the model space and it doesn't exist there i am sure of that. I would use model space if i could. This client has an extremely prototypical way of doing things and they've been doing it that way since they've been able to with autocad.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:37:05 GMT

before I show my complete ignorance, in exactly what industry are you working??

Riser as in architectural stairs (arch)

Riser as in the length of pipe between BOP and drill deck (offshore)

Riser as in high velocity discharge from hydrocracker reactor opposite "downcomer" (process plant).

Riser as in pipe/elec chase in high-rise (Arch MEP)

Riser as in vertical chain conveyor for chipper feed (pulp/paper)

Riser as in gas recovery block downstream of burners (coal fired power generation)

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:56:16 GMT

Haha you're fine, you know more than me a assure you. I'm an MP Mechanical design engineer so the Riser is a plumbing riser showing how the water and sewage pipes are to be routed through the ceiling and under the slab.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:30:13 GMT

Okay so an MEP chase with branches. Are you using a vertical or just plain AutoCAD with an add-on or something home-grown??

Can you post a copy of the file?? I'm curious how a 3D riser can not be in MS.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:01:10 GMT

I'm not sure what "a vertical" is. And no, I cannot send a copy of one of the files as they do not belong to me but to our company and to the client. I wish I could. I really appreciate all of your help but you don't have to keep trying to find a solution, We've been doing it this way for years haha. Thanks for all of your time.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

pendean — Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:16:39 GMT

>>>...I'm not sure what "a vertical" is...<<<

AutoCAD MEP is designed to be used by folks like you to do what you do, instead of trying to get AutoCAD to compete with REVIT (a pencil/paper to cad comparison when it comes to specialty needs like MEP design).

Sounds like you might just be using the wrong variant of AutoCAD for your Plumbing design needs.

Here is more info https://www.autodesk.com/products/autocad-mep/overview

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:22:00 GMT

.......This is one very simple feature that would not be "competing with Revit" even in the slightest. It is simply being able to view multiple pages within a dwg at the same time. AutoCAD is the correct program for our uses I can assure you of that. This isn't even something that we need, just something that would be extremely convenient if it existed. I only compare the function I'm wanting to Revit because I know that Revit has that capability and is made by the same company so it is something the AutoCAD creators can look at to see what I mean exactly.

Re: Opening Multiple page layout windows within one DWG file.

user181 — Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:49:36 GMT

I don't believe you can view multiple layout tabs at once but you should be able to find a way to view everything you want at the same time. Your original post says "3D isometric riser" and you say its not in model space. It doesn't sound like this riser is 3D, it sounds like it is just a 2D isometric detail drawn in paper space? If that is the case why not draw it in model space or use chspace to put it in model so you can use the multiple viewport configurations to view everything you need. Then use a viewport to show it in paper space.

Edit: If the riser is in paper space just create a viewport next to it and zoom to area you want to see. Then delete it when you are done.