topic Re: Rotated plot in AutoCAD Forum

Rotated plot

cs2kplus — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 13:52:37 GMT

Hi,

Why is my plot rotating 90 degrees clockwise?

Wayne

Re: Rotated plot

paullimapa — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 14:02:46 GMT

Many questions to which we’ll need answers to respond to your question:

1. What plotter device are you using?

2. Does this occur with other plotter devices?

3. Have you had this problem before or did this just recently occur?

4. Do you have latest AutoCAD version installed? Run About command, do a screenshot and share that here

5. Do a screenshot of the Plot window and share that here

Re: Rotated plot

Valentin_CAD — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 14:09:56 GMT

@cs2kplus ,

How to control the plot orientation for AutoCAD drawings

Page orientation plots opposite from AutoCAD

Re: Rotated plot

cs2kplus — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:15:16 GMT

This has always been a problem and people just rotate the pdfs.

I don't use autocad a lot.

We are on 2023 version.

I have attached a screen shot.

Re: Rotated plot

paullimapa — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:31:29 GMT

I see you are using a custom plotter device Adobe PDF. Any reason for using this over AutoCADs built in pdf devices like Dwg To PDF.pc3? Perhaps try the built in pdf devices which would solve the rotated output problem

Re: Rotated plot

Kent1Cooper — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:46:50 GMT

Though the icon in the middle "looks" vertical, you do have Lanscape orientation selected. Does the Preview show it as you want it? That would matter, not the orientation of the icon in the image.

Re: Rotated plot

cs2kplus — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:49:02 GMT

Even when I drill down the options there is no rotate option, which is crazy.

Re: Rotated plot

cs2kplus — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:53:39 GMT

I don't use dwg to pdf because I get the following result attached.

Looks like crap.

It's just a corner of the pdf for proprietary reasons.

Maybe our file has been modified?

Re: Rotated plot

paullimapa — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:59:33 GMT

The cause of that could be due to the monochrome.ctb file you’ve selected. I would be curious to see how the same area of the output looks like when you use the Adobe PDF device. But is there a reason this ctb file is being used instead of one that’s designed to give you the pen weights needed to get a better quality outcome?

Re: Rotated plot

cs2kplus — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:05:52 GMT

monochrome is the only one that produces a black and white plot.

anything else I can do?

Re: Rotated plot

paullimapa — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:09:51 GMT

So it sounds like as long as you get a pdf output that’s all black lines with all the same line weight that is sharp would solve your problem. Then you can use any of AutoCADs pdf devices and no longer have to deal with rotated PDFs

Re: Rotated plot

paullimapa — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:21:03 GMT

In Autocad enter command StylesManager

At where location Windows Explorer opens unzip the attached ctb files there.

Then try any of these to see if you get better results

Re: Rotated plot

cs2kplus — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:21:43 GMT

autocads device does not rotate but produces a horrible print.

Re: Rotated plot

cs2kplus — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:49:23 GMT

They all rotate.

I wonder if adobe acrobat is doing something?

Re: Rotated plot

paullimapa — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:53:42 GMT

Of course the problem is with that which is why I’ve been telling you to use the builtin pdf devices

Re: Rotated plot

Kent1Cooper — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:56:51 GMT

I don't have the Adobe PDF option you're showing available, but in DWGtoPDF and various AutoCAD and Microsoft PDF printer choices, there's the option within them to make this distinction, with the first number of the page size being the horizontal dimension and the second the vertical, and the little page icon agreeing:

vs.

Do you get a choice like that in any that produce an acceptable quality output?

And in the Bluebeam version, though that page icon is always shown vertically, the Preview shows it oriented horizontally if Landscape orientation is chosen. So I repeat my question from before about whether the Preview shows what you want.

Re: Rotated plot

paullimapa — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 17:08:00 GMT

@cs2kplus Always been a draw back of Adobe PDF driver printing rotated PDFs. I always end up having to open in acrobat and rotate all the pages back. This is why using the builtin pdf drives like dwg to pdf.pc3 solves that along with the ctb files included. Now those ctbs doesn’t control rgb colors but as long as colors 1 to 255 are used then the lineweights should all be black and thin for a 11x17 plot and not rotated

Re: Rotated plot

cs2kplus — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 17:08:45 GMT

but they print illegibly. I have attached a stripped down version. Could you please try to batch plot?

Re: Rotated plot

pendean — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 17:20:41 GMT

@cs2kplus wrote:

but they print illegibly. I have attached a stripped down version. Could you please try to batch plot?

PUBLISH command settings for your two layouts

And the PDF results in three different PDF viewers (Adobe Acrobat, Foxit and Chrome WebBrowser)

Re: Rotated plot

paullimapa — Fri, 23 Feb 2024 18:10:53 GMT

They actually all print find. But Adobe is biased here because when you use their printer (Adobe PDF) & viewer (Adobe Acrobat) they make their view of the pdf crisp and clear. But when you print the pdf vs other pdfs created using the built-in AutoCAD devices (DWG To PDF.pc3) they are actually exactly the same. You can see there are no differences by using the Edge web browser to view the pdfs.

So if you're catering to clients who are going to use Adobe Acrobat to view the pdfs, then yes, the quality looks terrible unless you use the Adobe PDF to create the pdf. So the choice is yours. If you want to continue to use Adobe PDF to generate the pdfs then you have no choice but to open the pdf in Adobe Acrobat and rotate all the pages.