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Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 16:22:24 GMT

Can anyone explain how to correct this issue

In the block the text and attribute have the same grip horizontal positions

However when the text adds to the attribute it aligns with the lower grip while the text is aligned with the upper grip, which magic parameter needs to be changed or what is the solution?

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

chriscowgill7373 — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 16:42:24 GMT

Bottom Left, is what the left picture is justified to

Left is what the right picture appears to be justified to.

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 16:49:42 GMT

I thought that but below are the properties of attribute and text

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

chriscowgill7373 — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:04:39 GMT

Is it trying to autostack the fraction? can you post a drawing with an example?

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

cadffm — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:06:57 GMT

Thats the Attributdefinition, not the Attribut (from the first picture),

please test it with a NEW Blockreference, or use ATTSYNC for that Block.

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:08:15 GMT

Attached is the file with the title block and misaligned attributes against text elements

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

chriscowgill7373 — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:43:11 GMT

Its because they are multiline attributes. If they are single line, it works just fine:

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

cadffm — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:08:40 GMT

It's hard to describe

The ATTDEF Object is like a TEXT-Object, but if you create a multiline-attdef and you create a blockreference (with this multiline-attribute)

then Acad display it like a MTEXT.

A artifice of the Autodesk programmers to offer a Multiline-Attribute without having a "real" new Multiline-Attdef/Attribute Object.

And the position of insertionpoint Bottom-Left is different between TEXT and MTEXT (or better, the Text-Value position relative to the basepoint)

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

Kent1Cooper — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:40:42 GMT

@cadffm wrote:

.... the position of insertionpoint Bottom-Left is different between TEXT and MTEXT (or better, the Text-Value position relative to the basepoint)

To elaborate on that, Bottom-Left [and also Bottom-Center and Bottom-Right] justification for plain Text goes to the bottom of possible descenders below the base-line [the tails on lower-case g, j, p, q, y, slashes, parentheses, etc.] whether or not the Text contains any of those. But for Mtext, it goes to the bottom of the actual character content [which varies depending on whether there are any descenders, and which means it will shift when you change the content between having and not having any descenders on the lowest line]. "Ordinary" Left/Center/Right justification for plain Text puts the baseline at the level of the insertion point, and descenders [if there are any] go below that level. Mtext doesn't have an equivalent to that kind of positioning.

Re: Insertion points for text and Attributes differs

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2018 03:35:22 GMT

Now I understand the differentce between MTEXT and TEXT insertion points

As a note had to use https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/can-t-convert-multiline-attributes-to-single-line/td-p/2620674, process to change the multiline attributes back to single line.

Thanks for help and support