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AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:04:47 GMT

I work in our JAX office, and the server is in PITT, how many dwgs are to much for SSM work with. We have 3 projects that have 250 to 300 dwgs and it seems it takes to long to create or use SSM in the JAX office.

@Anonymous

john.vellek has edited your subject line for clarity: Sheet Set Manager

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

pkolarik — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:05:07 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

I work in our JAX office, and the server is in PITT, how many dwgs are to much for SSM work with. We have 3 projects that have 250 to 300 dwgs and it seems it takes to long to create or use SSM in the JAX office.

Our largest project utilizing Sheet Sets was 525 drawings. The SSM worked fine other than the fact that it was a bit slow compared to smaller SSM projects. (as in it would take 10 seconds to open the Sheet Set instead of 1 second, etc)

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

murray-clack — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:05:24 GMT

These tips might help:

The Sheet Set Manager has the ability to refresh its status so that it shows you what drawings currently are locked because they are open by other users, and, what drawings have been recently added or removed from the Sheet Set. However, automatic refreshes of the Sheet Set Manager can slow down your system, you can set the SSMSHEETSTATUS to a value of 0 (zero) which will turn off the automatic refresh.
Setting SSMSHEETSTATUS to a value of 1 (one) updates the sheet set when it is reopened, or, when a sheet has been saved.
However, if you don’t want to turn the refresh off entirely, you can increase the time increment of how often it refreshes. First, set SSMSHEETSTATUS to a value of 2, and then set the system variable SSMPOLLTIME to a higher value than 60 (where “60” means 60 seconds). For example, if you want the SSM to automatically refresh every five minutes, then set SSMPOLLTIME to a value of 300. The maximum refresh value you can assign is 600 (i.e. 10 minutes).

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:05:39 GMT

That is not my findings, It took over an hour to create the 300+ sheet set, and autocad was non responsive in the windows task manager. I am running a print set to .pdf and so far its 30 mins later and only on sheet 41 of 322

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:05:54 GMT

My workstation has 32 gb of ram, and is a intel xeon cpu e5-1630 v3 @3.70ghz, what are you using as a comparison if you don't mind.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

john.vellek — Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:06:10 GMT

HI @Anonymous,

This sounds like a fairly large sheet set. How are you Publishing the set to PDF? Can you share the settings? Do you have plot in background turned on or off?

This slowness issue actually sounds more like a latency issue with the server. If you (as a test) move the files locally how does this behave?

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:15:54 GMT

hello @Anonymous,

plotting to pdf, plot in background is on. The server is in Pittsburgh and i am working with the SSM in Jacksonville Fl. , so I am sure the latency ping is part of it. So what amount of sheets are to large to deal with given that , i assume over 200? I finally got the dwg layouts loaded and did a couple of batch plots using SSM, and it was faster, by about 1/2 the amount of time it takes me to open up (6) 50 sheet .dsd files and print those. Takes 4 hours to process the files with Batch plot and 2 hours through Sheet Set Manager. While the SSM was quicker, it did seem to slow autocad with plotting in background, autocad would hesitate every other 10 commands or so.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

maratovich — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:24:54 GMT

If you copy files to your computer - printing will be fast?

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:58:07 GMT

Thank you Maratovich 🙂 , but that is not a practice that we implement at our firm, We have techs all over the southeast working in those files and to many forgot to copy back, sheet overwrites, etc. happen so that is not an option or practice that I follow. So, I am trying to find solutions to my other method of printing the book of plans, as batch printing a group of just 50 at a time takes longer and model space printing, OI, i am trying to bring this group into the age of PS printing, much easier and the xy in a ps layout is always the same so you can use one sheets layout for all the other sheets, Model space layout has to many variables for this large plan set.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

maratovich — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:21:53 GMT

I meant - compare the print speed.
I think that the effect is that the file is on the server.
Maybe the speed of the Sheet Set Manager on the server is small and long.
First you need to find the reason - but is it precisely because of Sheet Set Manager?

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

john.vellek — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 14:04:06 GMT

Hi @Anonymous,

Have you considered a remote connection to a workstation in Pittsburgh? I think you need to keep the processing local to the server location as the WAN is always going to be the bottle neck. I assume you have a pt-to-pt connection. Do you also use network acceleration?

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

Anonymous — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:07:25 GMT

Hello again John,

I will have to ask IT dept. if we have network acceleration, I do not believe our company has open workstations not in use to connect to.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

john.vellek — Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:11:02 GMT

Hi @Anonymous,

The spare workstation might be a good solution. I have used this method in the past and the hardware typically does not have to be super great as it is just plotting and can take a little longer than if it were being used for production.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

JTBWorld — Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:26:27 GMT

Here are some tips:

Sometimes our SSMPropEditor has helped to fix problems related to non existing or hard coded paths.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

john.vellek — Wed, 01 Aug 2018 22:47:50 GMT

Hi @Anonymous,

I am coming back to your thread to see if the issue or question you posed has been resolved. If so, please mark the post or posts as Solution(s) to help others find the answer quickly. If your issue persists, please give me a bit more detail on this issue so we can continue to work towards getting this solved.

Re: AutoCAD Sheet Set Manager slow over WAN

murray-clack — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:43:57 GMT

So, I recently encountered an extremely slow SSM which was causing a huge delay when opening the drawings or crashing CAD altogether.

The solution I found was that all of the support paths (View label, callout labels, sheet creation, etc) were not pointing to the correct folder paths. (back story: Our IT consolidated a lot of network paths to [ironically] make things faster. The support folder used to be Y:\ABC\123\CAD Standards\ and was change to Y:\XYZ\456\CAD Standards\ )

Once I removed the old location and added the new locations, everything goes at lightning speed now.