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    <title>topic Re: ROTATE by reference as default in AutoCAD Forum</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8167272#M171055</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1764997"&gt;@76jsa&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.… is there a way to set ROTATE &lt;STRONG&gt;by reference&lt;/STRONG&gt; as default, not by base point? ….&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You're not going to escape the need for a &lt;FONT color="#800080"&gt;base point&lt;/FONT&gt;, in any case, since Rotating by Reference is still necessarily around some &lt;FONT color="#800080"&gt;base point&lt;/FONT&gt;.&amp;nbsp; But you could define a dedicated command that automatically feeds in the &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;R&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;eference option after &lt;FONT color="#800080"&gt;that&lt;/FONT&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Something like this [minimally tested]:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(defun &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;C:ROTATE&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;R&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; (/ ss) ; = Rotate with built-in &lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;R&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;eference option&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; (if (setq ss (ssget))&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (command "_.rotate" ss "" &lt;FONT color="#800080"&gt;pause&lt;/FONT&gt; "_&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;r&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;eference")&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You &lt;EM&gt;could&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; even UNDEFINE the native ROTATE command, and make that the definition of that command name by taking the &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;R&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; off the end of the name.&amp;nbsp; You would still have standard ROTATE available if needed, by typing it in with the &lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;period prefix&lt;/FONT&gt;:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;ROTATE&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:34:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Kent1Cooper</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-07-31T11:34:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8167097#M171053</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;is there a way to set ROTATE &lt;STRONG&gt;by reference&lt;/STRONG&gt; as default, not by base point?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:56:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8167097#M171053</guid>
      <dc:creator>76jsa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-31T09:56:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8167155#M171054</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You may be able to redefine the command to call some addin program.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Alternatively -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For a rotate with reference call, I use a Right-Click menu entry with the command macro:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;^C^C_Select \_rotate previous ;\r @;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:33:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8167155#M171054</guid>
      <dc:creator>SEANT61</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-31T10:33:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8167272#M171055</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1764997"&gt;@76jsa&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.… is there a way to set ROTATE &lt;STRONG&gt;by reference&lt;/STRONG&gt; as default, not by base point? ….&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You're not going to escape the need for a &lt;FONT color="#800080"&gt;base point&lt;/FONT&gt;, in any case, since Rotating by Reference is still necessarily around some &lt;FONT color="#800080"&gt;base point&lt;/FONT&gt;.&amp;nbsp; But you could define a dedicated command that automatically feeds in the &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;R&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;eference option after &lt;FONT color="#800080"&gt;that&lt;/FONT&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Something like this [minimally tested]:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(defun &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;C:ROTATE&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;R&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; (/ ss) ; = Rotate with built-in &lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;R&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;eference option&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; (if (setq ss (ssget))&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (command "_.rotate" ss "" &lt;FONT color="#800080"&gt;pause&lt;/FONT&gt; "_&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;r&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;eference")&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; )&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You &lt;EM&gt;could&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; even UNDEFINE the native ROTATE command, and make that the definition of that command name by taking the &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff"&gt;R&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; off the end of the name.&amp;nbsp; You would still have standard ROTATE available if needed, by typing it in with the &lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;period prefix&lt;/FONT&gt;:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;ROTATE&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:34:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8167272#M171055</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kent1Cooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-31T11:34:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8168986#M171056</link>
      <description>I have a similar utility to Kent's and have named it&lt;BR /&gt;c:RTR&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;???&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:55:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8168986#M171056</guid>
      <dc:creator>scot-65</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-31T22:55:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8178137#M171057</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As a supplement to my Rotate by Reference command macro suggestion, here is a screencast of that, plus another By Reference sub option.&amp;nbsp; There are times when that sub option functionality comes in handy.&amp;nbsp; That sub-option macro:&lt;BR /&gt;^C^C_Select;\_rotate previous;;\r;@;\p;\\&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class="iframe-container"&gt;&lt;IFRAME width="640" height="590" src="https://screencast.autodesk.com/Embed/Timeline/c86b55fc-278b-4264-b09c-3877b6d48d24" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen" webkitallowfullscreen="webkitallowfullscreen"&gt;&lt;/IFRAME&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 06:56:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/8178137#M171057</guid>
      <dc:creator>SEANT61</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-05T06:56:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10405270#M171058</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;how do you define this command ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:50:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10405270#M171058</guid>
      <dc:creator>pl.fischer68</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-20T10:50:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10405340#M171059</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/10168099"&gt;@pl.fischer68&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;how do you define this command ?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Copy the code and paste it into a plain-text editor such as Notepad.&amp;nbsp; Save it to a file [call it whatever you want] with a &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;.lsp&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; filetype ending.&amp;nbsp; In an AutoCAD drawing, use &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;APPLOAD&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;, navigate to where you put that file, and &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;Load&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; it.&amp;nbsp; The command name is &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ROTATER&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; [not case-sensitive].&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:45:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10405340#M171059</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kent1Cooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-20T11:45:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10405783#M171060</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;thank you so much dude, this rotate command was driving me crazy. Now the ROTATER does work, but it doesn't appear in the aliasedit panel (i'd like to create a shortcut for the new rotater command)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2021 16:42:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10405783#M171060</guid>
      <dc:creator>pl.fischer68</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-20T16:42:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10407555#M171061</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/10168099"&gt;@pl.fischer68&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.... (i'd like to create a shortcut for the new rotater command)&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I think the command alias editor may work only with actual AutoCAD command names.&amp;nbsp; But you can make the name of the command anything you want -- the part immediately following&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;(defun C:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp; is always the command name, so just change &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;ROTATER&lt;/FONT&gt; to something else [as long as it doesn't conflict with some already-existing command name or alias].&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2021 11:48:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10407555#M171061</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kent1Cooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-21T11:48:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ROTATE by reference as default</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10407633#M171062</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;amazing ! thank you for taking the time to explain me this, hope it will help others !&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2021 12:13:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/rotate-by-reference-as-default/m-p/10407633#M171062</guid>
      <dc:creator>pl.fischer68</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-21T12:13:56Z</dc:date>
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