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Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 14:07:53 GMT

Hi,

I have the product design suite because I use Inventor. For 2D drawings we use an old version of Autocad LT. I am now trying to convert everything over to our version of AutCAD 2019.

The issue is that I often add text into a dimension to explain what is being measured. When I do this on a vertical dimension, the extension line on the bottom doesn't move to make room for my text but instead goes through it. In LT I was simply able to double click the node for the text or slightly move it and it would adjust to make room. In 2019 I have to mess around with it and add a couple extra lines below the text and then add a "space" so that CAD thinks I have entered a character and doesn't erase the extra lines I input.

Sorry for the long explanation, I am just looking for a quick yet not a mickey mouse way to resolve this issue in the future.

Thanks

Sandro

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

pendean — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 14:23:40 GMT

screenshots would probably help us see what you see... .

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 14:30:47 GMT

i hope this clears up what i was explaining...

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:27:05 GMT

I think you need to make a simple modification to your dimension style. Increasing the value of the setting shown in the pdf below (Offset from dim line) should fix this. You may have to try a couple of experiments to hit on the ideal spacing for your particular style. Hope this helps.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:34:56 GMT

thanks for trying but this doesnt really help me. All this does is make the space between my primary and alternate unites larger. I need the arrow leader lines to keep the same distance away from the text as they do from the numbers when i do input text.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:54:36 GMT

Sorry- I thought that was it, because having that value set too small causes the same overlap that your image showed....at least on my system...officially out of ideas.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

pendean — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 18:54:44 GMT

My guess is you created that 3rd line with a hard return (tapping <enter> as you typed) , correct? Just add another hard return or two to move that line out of the way, its a flaw that doesn't have a good fix.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 19:04:47 GMT

lol brutal. That was the "mickey mouse" fix that I used in the beginning that I am trying to avoid. seems crazy to me something of this simplicity does not have a fix, even more so since my 2012 version of LT automatically adjusts when i either double click the text node or move the text to a new position with the node.

Thanks anyway. Hopefully someone at Autodesk reads this..

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

neaton — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:53:33 GMT

Does this happen with new dimensions that you create or legacy ones? Were the dimensions exported from Inventor or created in ACAD Lt? If you use the dimstyle update option on the existing dimension does it fix it?

Nancy

@Anonymous wrote:

lol brutal. That was the "mickey mouse" fix that I used in the beginning that I am trying to avoid. seems crazy to me something of this simplicity does not have a fix, even more so since my 2012 version of LT automatically adjusts when i either double click the text node or move the text to a new position with the node.

Thanks anyway. Hopefully someone at Autodesk reads this.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:55:58 GMT

I tried your solution and it did not work. This is happening on new dimensions created on new drawings in 2019.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

neaton — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 20:58:36 GMT

Can you post a drawing or part of one? I can't duplicate it and haven't seen it before.

Nancy

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 14:01:50 GMT

Hi Nancy, I attached a cad file

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

s.borello — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:31:28 GMT

Select your dimension then right click... select Dim Text Position and pick above dim line to start... see if this solves your issue. See attached screen-shot.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:41:52 GMT

thanks for the help but it doesnt work.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

neaton — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:13:09 GMT

Interesting: The centered text isn't centered. When I changed the text rotation angle of the original dimension to 0.01 it snapped back to center and stayed centered when I changed the rotation back to 0. New dimensions are centered but when I add the extra text it jumps to off center. I would expect that Reset Text Position and/or Center Vertically would fix it but that did nothing.

I guess at this point the easy but annoying solution is to use QSelect to change the text rotation angle to 0.01 and back to 0. I would put in a support ticket on this one and see if Autodesk has an answer.

EDIT: Have you tested this with an out of the box template drawing such as acad.dwt, not your own template?

Nancy

@Anonymous wrote:

Hi Nancy, I attached a cad file

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:18:33 GMT

BRUTAL.

i just tried with a default template. it actually worked at first with a standard dimension style. i switched to annotative and it worked, but then i switched the annotative style to include the alternate units and it didnt work. I believe this narrows it down to a problem with alternate units. Still have no solution.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

neaton — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:33:57 GMT

Alternate dimension and additional text work fine in my out of the box AutoCAD. I tried every combination of adding and altering additional text in Standard and Annotative dimstyles and couldn't duplicate the issue.

Does this happen with every computer in the office? Do you have all updates, patches, etc. installed? Newest video drivers?

Nancy

@Anonymous wrote:

BRUTAL.

i just tried with a default template. it actually worked at first with a standard dimension style. i switched to annotative and it worked, but then i switched the annotative style to include the alternate units and it didnt work. I believe this narrows it down to a problem with alternate units. Still have no solution.

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:46:15 GMT

I am the only user here and i am using the most up to date version possible of AutoCAD 2019. I used the standard default template "acad". Can you try opening the drawing file I uploaded and see if it works properly on your machine?

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

neaton — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:04:41 GMT

Tracked it down! If the alternate text is set to "Below primary value" it causes the issue you are having. If the alternate text is set to "After primary value" it doesn't happen. So, AutoCAD programmed "Below" to always center the 2 dimensions and ignores any additional text when determining where "center" is.

We have always set our alternate text to be after and manually added a break if we need to to make it fit between the dim lines which is why we haven't seen the problem.

Changing the text rotation to 0.01 centers the text but is an odd solution.

Nancy

@Anonymous wrote:

I am the only user here and i am using the most up to date version possible of AutoCAD 2019. I used the standard default template "acad". Can you try opening the drawing file I uploaded and see if it works properly on your machine?

Re: Dimension line interfering with its own text

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 20:56:30 GMT

Hi Nancy,

I really appreciate you trying to help me. I think this one has no solution. I see how that method does solve the problem however that is not the way I wish to present my units. I think @pendean was right when he said it is a flaw that should have a ticket opened.