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    <title>topic Re: Page setup manager layout scale, please help in AutoCAD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks John&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are correct the units are set to meters,&amp;nbsp;I still find it a bit confusing because it should not matter what the units are? I have always learned that a&amp;nbsp;scale (say 1:1000) means that the unit in the drawing is the same on paper divided by the scale factor.&amp;nbsp;Can you explain the reasoning behind this scale factors autodesk is using?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Also what I do not understand is, when I click on a viewport to set a scale, the initial scale displayed is extremely small. as per attachment. Why is that, wand what does it represent?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Scale Autcad.jpg" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/589322iB0F1C245765A2562/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Scale Autcad.jpg" alt="Scale Autcad.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 11:44:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-01-10T11:44:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Page setup manager layout scale, please help</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/page-setup-manager-layout-scale-please-help/m-p/8506045#M154708</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My page setup manager in layout has a standard scale setting of 1:1000&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So 1mm (in paper space) equates&amp;nbsp;to 1 unit in model space&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;Why am I unable to set scale to 1:1 as in the attached example video on youtube? (attached)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Autocad automatically changes&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;1mm paperspace &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;to 0.001 unit in model space (attached)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Am I missing something?, I really do not understand it&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thanks&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Scale 1_1 - example video.jpg" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/588225i13B33332539FFB22/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Scale 1_1 - example video.jpg" alt="Scale 1_1 - example video.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Scale 1_1.jpg" style="width: 700px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/588224i1759438554C3DC1B/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Scale 1_1.jpg" alt="Scale 1_1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Scale 1_1000.jpg" style="width: 700px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/588223iB5D3246823248237/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Scale 1_1000.jpg" alt="Scale 1_1000.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 22:36:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-07T22:36:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Page setup manager layout scale, please help</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/page-setup-manager-layout-scale-please-help/m-p/8506078#M154709</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;@Anonymous,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Please run -DWGUNITS to see what your current drawing units are set to. I suspect that they are set to meters in which case the scaling you show makes sense.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #808000;"&gt;Please select the &lt;STRONG&gt;Accept as Solution&lt;/STRONG&gt; button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 22:54:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>john.vellek</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-07T22:54:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Page setup manager layout scale, please help</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/page-setup-manager-layout-scale-please-help/m-p/8512764#M154710</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks John&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are correct the units are set to meters,&amp;nbsp;I still find it a bit confusing because it should not matter what the units are? I have always learned that a&amp;nbsp;scale (say 1:1000) means that the unit in the drawing is the same on paper divided by the scale factor.&amp;nbsp;Can you explain the reasoning behind this scale factors autodesk is using?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also what I do not understand is, when I click on a viewport to set a scale, the initial scale displayed is extremely small. as per attachment. Why is that, wand what does it represent?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Scale Autcad.jpg" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/589322iB0F1C245765A2562/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Scale Autcad.jpg" alt="Scale Autcad.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 11:44:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-10T11:44:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Page setup manager layout scale, please help</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/page-setup-manager-layout-scale-please-help/m-p/8513399#M154711</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As suggested, you should check the UNITS and make sure it is set to Millimeters.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you work in construction, millimeters is the proper convention. Meters is used by civil engineers and surveyors.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also make sure that you start with a metric template. That should provide you with the proper annotation scale settings in the task bar. You can use the SCALELISTEDIT command to change scale options or add and delete scale settings.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 15:27:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>leothebuilder</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-10T15:27:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Page setup manager layout scale, please help</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/page-setup-manager-layout-scale-please-help/m-p/8513403#M154712</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;P.s.&amp;nbsp;some European countries use centimeters I believe, if so set UNITS to centimeters.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 15:29:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>leothebuilder</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-10T15:29:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Page setup manager layout scale, please help</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I found a very clear explanation here :&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.cadmasters.com/techsupp/ldt/metric.html" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.cadmasters.com/techsupp/ldt/metric.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now it makes sense, thanks for responding.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2019 09:09:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-11T09:09:54Z</dc:date>
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