topic Re: Move Text or Layer to Top in AutoCAD Forum

Move Text or Layer to Top

kevinwatts — Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:38:15 GMT

Given:

AutoCAD 2019

Win10

Multiple layers setup

I am trying to place a wipeout polygon above some layers and under others such as text.

Procedures in a Layout:

Create text on a Text layer
Create a wipeout polygon over part of a drawing
Text is hidden behind the wipeout
Hide Wipeout layer
Select the text that was hidden under the wipeout polygon
R-Click - Draw Oder - Bring to Front
Now the text is visible and you can Output a pdf of that layout and the text is visible over the wipeout as expected. That is what I want!!

Problem:

After switching between Layouts (multi-layout dwg) text or other items that were move “to top” are lost behind a wipeout polygon.

The position setting is not be retained. I need specific layer to be overtop of others. Text, dash lines and other annotation, in this application. I am not clear about how to move specific layers to display above another layers? And/or is there a way to ensure that the items such as text stay after moving them to the top?

Kevin

Re: Move Text or Layer to Top

pendean — Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:48:44 GMT

REGENALL usually fixes the display-only problem you are noting: never seen it suddenly print wrong if it printed correctly once before in 2019.

BTW look up and use TEXTTOFRONT variable https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/ENU/AutoCAD-Core/files/GUID-DE1673FF-A97E-480A-8BE2-54B52F21D75C-htm.html plus HATCHTOBACK variables while we are all talking about https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/ENU/AutoCAD-Core/files/GUID-F4A78D17-6BE6-4906-990C-4446268F4570-htm.html

Re: Move Text or Layer to Top

kevinwatts — Thu, 10 Jan 2019 21:41:40 GMT

Thank you Pendean for your reply.

I followed through with your suggestions. However, that did not fix the problem.

I have been trying a number of methods to overcome this. There may be a global setting for the wipeout that overrides settings? The layer name that created the problem was: 3-FIG.

I tested by creating a new layer and tried some of the other existing layers. Any annotation symbols such as multileader, text, or Text Editor INSERT-FIELD MTEXT, if added after the wipeout polygon was created - stays on top. They are visible and can be printed out. They continue on top of the wipeout after navigating to other Layouts, printing and saving and reopening the main dwg file.

Re: Move Text or Layer to Top

pendean — Thu, 10 Jan 2019 22:07:10 GMT

My bad, I missed where you are using wipeout object types. I hate wipeouts: they don't really work, find another solution for masking if the workaround you found below is not good enough

@kevinwatts wrote: I tested by creating a new layer and tried some of the other existing layers. Any annotation symbols such as multileader, text, or Text Editor INSERT-FIELD MTEXT, if added after the wipeout polygon was created - stays on top.

Tip: copyclip/pasteorig of the other objects is similar to 'drawing them afterwards" to mimic our workaround.

Re: Move Text or Layer to Top

neaton — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:20:47 GMT

The Draw Order problem was fixed with the latest 2019 update. Do you have the most current update 2019.1.2 installed?

I agree with @pendean that wipeouts cause problems and I avoid them. Use solid hatch color 255,255,255 instead.

Nancy

@kevinwatts wrote:

Thank you Pendean for your reply.

I followed through with your suggestions. However, that did not fix the problem.

I have been trying a number of methods to overcome this. There may be a global setting for the wipeout that overrides settings? The layer name that created the problem was: 3-FIG.

I tested by creating a new layer and tried some of the other existing layers. Any annotation symbols such as multileader, text, or Text Editor INSERT-FIELD MTEXT, if added after the wipeout polygon was created - stays on top. They are visible and can be printed out. They continue on top of the wipeout after navigating to other Layouts, printing and saving and reopening the main dwg file.

Re: Move Text or Layer to Top

kevinwatts — Fri, 18 Jan 2019 19:09:14 GMT

Hi Nancy,

Yesterday, I ran into problems with the drawingorder for one wipeout in a layout when switching between Layout workspaces/paperspaces. So I followed your comment and updated to the most current AutoCAD 2019.1.2 update. I hope that will help. I am a little concerned at I have used that throughout a number of layouts.

I am new to AutoCAD and have not tried to use a solid hatch color 255,255,255 instead. I have seen old posts indicating problems using it to.

Kevin

Re: Move Text or Layer to Top

neaton — Fri, 18 Jan 2019 19:25:19 GMT

I haven't heard of any problems using 255,255,255 instead of wipeouts so let us know if you run into any problems. Watch the draw order so the hatch is above the objects being hidden, but behind the ones that are visible.

Use QSelect in each layout to find any wipeouts.

Nancy

@kevinwatts wrote:

Hi Nancy,

Yesterday, I ran into problems with the drawingorder for one wipeout in a layout when switching between Layout workspaces/paperspaces. So I followed your comment and updated to the most current AutoCAD 2019.1.2 update. I hope that will help. I am a little concerned at I have used that throughout a number of layouts.

I am new to AutoCAD and have not tried to use a solid hatch color 255,255,255 instead. I have seen old posts indicating problems using it to.

Kevin