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Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

qureshikhizar — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:55:18 GMT

Hello Guys,

I have checked my units and its all good. Also some solutions suggested setting variables to 0 for Insetxxxxx variables and I have also turned the proxy stuff off. Yet everything that I copy within the same drawing or from another using ctrl c and ctrl v is scaled up 12x. Please help!!!!! AutoCAD 2019.

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

Moshe-A — Sat, 19 Jan 2019 20:14:42 GMT

@qureshikhizar hi,

Are you coping & pasting from model space to paper space? if so? it's not scaled up

since drawing limits in model space in generally larger then the drawing limits in paper space you get the line as 1:1

On the other hand if you coping & pasting from another dwg the scale may be affected by units. check the units in your current dwg and also in the other dwg and sync between them before copy & paste.

moshe

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

M_Hensley — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 11:03:42 GMT

Make sure INSUNITS is set to 0 (zero) for no scaling on insertion.

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cadffm — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 16:57:11 GMT

Also when copy&paste in from/to the same file?

Then it is a bug and not a usual thing.

Another threas, same issue without a solution: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/copy-and-paste-issue-update-2019-1-2/td-p/8459013

(InsXXXXXX variable has nothing to to with copy&paste).

Scary.

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

qureshikhizar — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:32:39 GMT

no. From one dwg to other

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

qureshikhizar — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:33:10 GMT

Its set to zero but ctrl v still scales up 12x

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

pendean — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:45:58 GMT

>>>...Its set to zero but ctrl v still scales up 12x...<<<
@qureshikhizar Just like going from a DWG file set to INCHES to a DWG file set to FEET: check both files with -DWGUNITS command and confirm (there is a dash in the name of that command).

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

ara_neresesian — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:46:04 GMT

make sure

1-both file are 2d and not 3d (paste with same ucs in 3d cases)

2-block with same name can be the reason (rename one of them)

3-cheak with an other AutoCAD if you have

4- please upload a list report from both object,

5-upload your files for more checkups

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

cadffm — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:02:16 GMT

You come 2 years after with a new reply? Cool.

As i wrote, nothing to do with insunis* variables, but

from one to another file can be the problem with an aec -dwgunits setup (see pendeans answer).

If you have still this problem with from-to-the same, this is unsolved so far i know (see my link in my older answer).

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

qureshikhizar — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:15:31 GMT

sorry but the problem is still unsolved. because of the nature of work, i cannot post files but to give an idea. I am ctrl c a 8.5x11 border to another file with all variables mentioned above same. Still it scales everything 12x. Work around is that i scale it back and it does not happen with all files. I assume its just a bug at this point :l

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

qureshikhizar — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:16:11 GMT

please see above

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

qureshikhizar — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:20:04 GMT

snip of command line

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

qureshikhizar — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:30:34 GMT

update: I think i solved the problem. All advise in this thread is very helpful and should be checked. In my case the issue was with a block that was likely arch but forced scaled back in the original line work. When copy pasting in current drawing the block was scaling up and scaling the other line work as well.

I simple exploded the block, ran audit and purge to solve the problem. I think best practice is to have the block editor and the actual block dims in model space match but to save time many people just scale the block to fit their needs. In my case it was a company title logo block. I hope this will help someone. Thanks everyone!

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

RobDraw — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:42:07 GMT

@qureshikhizar wrote:
I assume its just a bug at this point :l

You shouldn't assume.

This is a units issue. There are 12 inches in a foot. That scale factor is not a coincidence. Units are a file setting and can be confusing sometimes but your issue is definitely solvable with the correct settings.

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

Designs4C4AJ — Wed, 06 Nov 2024 15:56:59 GMT

I was copy and pasting objects and they came 1/12 smaller. I used DWGUNITS and went through the following and helped me:

Command: -DWGUNITS

Drawing units:
1. Inches
2. Feet
3. Millimeters
4. Centimeters
5. Decimeters
6. Meters
Unit for length <2>: 1

Drawing unit display formats:
1. Scientific
2. Decimal
3. Engineering
4. Architectural
5. Fractional
Linear display format <4>:

Architectural linear display precision formats:
0. 1"
1. 1/2"
2. 1/4"
3. 1/8"
4. 1/16"
5. 1/32"
6. 1/64"
7. 1/128"
8. 1/256"
Linear display precision <5>:

Scale objects from other drawings upon insert? [Yes/No] <Yes>: n

Match INSUNITS to drawing units? [Yes/No] <No>:

** WARNING: you have changed the unit for this drawing database. **
** All new objects will be drawn according to the new unit, but **
** existing objects will not change size unless you specifically **
** ask to have automatic scaling occur. **

Scale objects in current drawing to reflect change in units? [Yes/No] <Yes>: n

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Thank you for this thread!

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

JBloom2 — Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:29:07 GMT

Cycling through the -DWGUNITS command worked for me - thanks for this tip!

Re: Objects scaled 12x with copyclip or CTRL+C and CTRL+V

COLBOCAN — Tue, 27 May 2025 15:15:38 GMT

It's definitely a scaling issue associated with the units being set up between drawings (inch / feet). I agree with the most recent posts that running command -DWGUnits and following the prompts (most noticeably "no" for insertion scaling) will eradicate this issue. It worked for me on several drawings I had a similar issue with. Thank you everyone!