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Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Apr 2019 14:13:32 GMT

I set my viewport layer C-VPort to non plot. created a vport from a polyline and set it to the non plot layer. It still plots. Looked online and seems a polygonal vport consists of 2 entities, the vport and the original polyline. I cannot get to the polyline. In properties of the vport line, I do not get the polyline part to modify that to the non plot vport layer.

any help is appreciated 🙂 Karen

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

j.palmeL29YX — Wed, 03 Apr 2019 14:40:52 GMT

See this video .

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Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

pendean — Wed, 03 Apr 2019 14:46:12 GMT

The two polylines that your viewports are in are NOT on a noplot layer when I moved everything over to see for myself

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

S.Faris — Wed, 03 Apr 2019 14:54:34 GMT

Select the Viewport and click on the selection Dropdown where it shows Viewport(1), Now you can see the polyline in the Dropdown menu. Click on the Polyline(1) and change the layer.

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

ChicagoLooper — Wed, 03 Apr 2019 14:52:45 GMT

You have two viewports and two rectangles. The VPs are on top of the two rectangles. Even though the viewports do not plot, the rectangle underneath do, that's what you see, the rectangles, not the viewports.

To fix, click on each VP and right click and choose SEND TO BACK then delete both rectangles (they are green and are on the SIGNS layer). Once the rectangles are deleted, you're all good.

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:03:19 GMT

I actually set the vp to back and deleted any lines under it having just the vport line left, clicking it said that the vport was on c-vport (non ploting) and when I went to the properties, at top, the pull down only had the vport, not the poly line as well. then miraculously when I went back into the dwg, the properties pulldown listed both the vp and the polyline and hazah! set that line to c-vport and no plotted line. Thanks for your time 🙂

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:07:40 GMT

this is a new job for me, just started 2 weeks ago. And I have found that these dwgs (borders) although created on an 11x 17 platform, do not plot scale accurate to an 11x17 printer and its off more than the .3 percent as a web page said as the printer margin error. I hear you can edit the .pc3 file to account for margin but have no clue how to do that. Can you help with the scale issue? It is a 11x17 print at 20 scale. I found that this dwg was set to in dwg settings to 10, changed that to 20 but im still stumped as to why it will not print scale accurate.

thanks for your time, Karen

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

ChicagoLooper — Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:50:21 GMT

Your layouts, by layouts I mean the printing environment, commonly referred to as paperspace, is using a sheet size commonly referred to as ANSI-D. Do not confuse ANSI-D with Architectural-D, the former is W34"XH22" while the latter is W36"XH24". For your layout to work, you have more than one option. The easiest way is to keep the settings as they are. Make no mistake, if you choose to go the hard way you'll have more settings to adjust. Particular attention should be paid to 1) Paper size = ANSI-B 11x17 and 2) Scale: custom=>1 inch = 2 units. These two settings ( 1 & 2) are the key to getting your ANSI-D W34"xH22" layouts to scale correctly onto an 11x17 sheet. WARNING: if you combine these instructions with other instruction, then your prints may, or may not, scale accurately.

Important! You also have a 'No Plot' area on your layouts and will cause issues. You can tell where nothing will be printed by the dotted line adjacent to the edge of your sheet. The area from the dotted line outward toward the edge of the sheet is the no plot area and regardless of the settings in your plot dialog, it is off limits to your printer's ink head.

Why AutoCAD places an off- limits area on your sheet is unknown to the civilized world so you'll have to deal with it. Users who are aware of this believe the no print area should be determined by your printer, not by Autodesk, while many users don't even realize what the dotted line represents or how to manage it. The best way, is to eliminate the no plot, off limits area by reducing the area between the dotted line and paper edge to zero. You can put the dotted line directly, and precisely, on the edge of the sheet by going to Printer Properties>User-defined Paper Sizes & Calibration>Modify Standard Paper Sizes (Printable Area). From this setting you can 'move' to dotted line to the paper's edge.

It is important to move the dotted line because it may prohibit 1) where your printer may, or may not lay down ink and 2) determines the 0,0 point, or origin when you place your titleblock onto a layout.

Explaining and executing a plot operation on this forum is not easy, so don't expect to get it right the first time or to receive spot-on, easy to follow directions. You'll still need to practice and experiment to see the implications of choosing different settings and this includes choosing settings that will produce inaccurate results because inaccurate results will provide you with see what happens when you do this.

Alternatively, you may also switch your layouts to W17"xH11" then scale your plots to 1 inch = 1 unit.

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 16:06:33 GMT

I went to modify the dotted line parameters as described in red and now adobe will not print an actual size correctly. I put back the pc3 file to the original settings T and B to .42 and L and R to .23 and adobe still will not print correctly when using the actual size, it did prior. So no sure what adobe/autocad is missing.

"You can put the dotted line directly, and precisely, on the edge of the sheet by going to Printer Properties>User-defined Paper Sizes & Calibration>Modify Standard Paper Sizes (Printable Area). From this setting you can 'move' to dotted line to the paper's edge."

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 16:09:32 GMT

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

S.Faris — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 16:19:25 GMT

Can you do a 'save as' of the file and then Delete & Purge everything inside title block and post the file here, so that we can have a look. Maybe there are some specifics that's missing in the explanations provided. But having the subject in hand can save a lot of time to identify the real issue

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 16:54:22 GMT

okay, thank you for your time!

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

ChicagoLooper — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 18:11:19 GMT

You are trying to control your final print using Adobe Acrobat. It is better, much, much better, to control your print using an AutoCAD PDF.pc3 configuration. So far, you have done everything in AutoCAD. You have already drawn, dimensioned, hatched, annotated, inserted, copied, pasted, scaled, trimmed, rotated and every other imaginable thing directly in AutoCAD. So why are you choosing to ues Adobe Acrobat to CONTROL your print settings?

Keep your print settings totally within AutoCAD too. You can control your plot by doing this:

1-Make your print settings as shown above. Notice the sheet description in 2 and 5 are EXACTLY the same.

Your current layout is configured for ANSI-D. Your pc3 settings are not valid for all sheet sizes, they are applied on a sheet-by-sheet basis. This means every 'sheet description' has a unique pc3 setting. If you use the EXACT same sheet then you'll be fine. If you change from one sheet description to another then your settings will have to be copied and re-entered to a new pc3 file so I recommend you use the EXACT same sheet, e.g. ANSI full bleed D (34.00 x 22.00 Inches). CAUTION: there are several ANSI-D sheets, each with a different description, so be careful when choosing.

2-This is how you eliminate non-printable areas. Watch the dotted line move to the edge in preview when you make the margins 0.

After you've eliminated the non-printable areas by moving the dotted line to the paper's edge, click NEXT, then FINISH. In the next dialog window, you'll perform a SAVE AS on this PC3 file. You will want to OVERWRITE the existing PC3 named AutoCAD PDF (General Documentation).pc3 so the next time you do this your settings will be reapplied. When you are asked, You have made changes to a PC3 printer configuration file, choose 'Save changes to the following file' go ahead and keep the DEFAULT file displayed and click OK. You will return to the Plot dialog window where you can review your settings. They will look like the image below.

.3-Your final settings will look like this.

Your Plot Area, What to Plot, Plot offset, etc, is unknown because you have not uploaded your titlblock. Without it, the appropriate settings for this section of your plot job cannot be determined. I'm sure the settings can be determined and not knowing on my end isn't a problem for me (I hope it's not a dealer breaker for you). You will have to figure that part on your own (or you may upload your titleblock).

Re: Polygonal View Port Autocad 2018

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 19:05:16 GMT

Thank you kindly, I actually got to this solution a while ago 🙂

at the time I posted though, I was having a difficult time getting it correct for some reason.