topic Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing. in AutoCAD Forum

Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:48:14 GMT

I have a block that was created in a metric template. When I insert that block into a drawing with imperial units any arc will not display hidden. Circles and line segments display properly but not the arcs.

All the the geometry is set to byblock. I tried changing it to hidden but that didn't help.

I tried reloading line types but that did not seem to help.

I tried various ltscales but that did not help.

Any ideas?

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

imadHabash — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:54:39 GMT

Hi,

would you share with us this dwg , and which AutoCAD version did you have ?

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:57:13 GMT

Sure.

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

pendean — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:04:45 GMT

What is your LTSCALE set to in your destination file? 1 would be the wrong answer for your metric block in an Imperial file.

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

cadffm — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:06:33 GMT

Sorry, but you uploaded an file that can be use as a blockdefinition, but not the same as you show in your picture.

Where are your "target" imperial file where the blockreference is set to linetype hidden(or hidden2) and

not displaying very well?

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:06:30 GMT

0.75 in both imperial and metric drawings.

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:08:47 GMT

@cadffm wrote:

Sorry, but you uploaded an file that can be use as a blockdefinition, but not the same as you show in your picture.

Where are your "target" imperial file where the blockreference is set to linetype hidden(or hidden2) and

not displaying very well?

did you mean to say it CAN'T be used as a blockdefinition?

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

imadHabash — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:11:05 GMT

Try to change your lines/polylines to Hidden linetype , see attached dwg file and see if it's OK .

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:14:55 GMT

But that is a metric file. My problem is in an imperial file when it is inserted as a block. I'm sorry, I should've explained when I uploaded my block.

I uploaded the original block to be inserted. If you open that file I uploaded it is in a metric dwg. Everything displays fine there. What you should do is insert the file I uploaded into an imperial dwg.

that's what I should've uploaded original. I'll do that now. sorry.

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

cadffm — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:19:34 GMT

Shut down you PC, go around the house and try it again, or take a coffee 😉

1. The outer polyline linetype is set to BYBLOCK

2. In you file where you inserted the dwg as Block: The Blockreference ltype ist set to BYLAYER

3. The Layer is NSP Spider, the ltype of this layer is set to CONTINUOUS

So, there is nothing that looks like your first images...

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

imadHabash — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:23:44 GMT

The problem is that you have a different linetype for components . Hidden-2 VS Byblock . Modify your linetypes to Hidden-2 .

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:32:26 GMT

@cadffm wrote:

Shut down you PC, go around the house and try it again, or take a coffee 😉

1. The outer polyline linetype is set to BYBLOCK

2. In you file where you inserted the dwg as Block: The Blockreference ltype ist set to BYLAYER

3. The Layer is NSP Spider, the ltype of this layer is set to CONTINUOUS

So, there is nothing that looks like your first images...

lets try again, lol

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:32:02 GMT

@imadHabash wrote:

The problem is that you have a different linetype for components . Hidden-2 VS Byblock . Modify your linetypes to Hidden-2 .

did that work for you? because I didn't change anything for me.

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

cadffm — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:53:36 GMT

You uploaded the "real" data now, thanks. (next time, please let us play with the real data from start on)

But i didn't get problems.

Please test it again with your own uploaded files and perhaps try it with HQGEOM on/off

Tested with 2013 and 2019

~length 364 with metric linetypedefinition

~length 14.36 in imperial size and imperial linetypedefinition displays (as expected) the same optical result.

But again: Your (first) picture is "impossible", when it is "impossible" for usual i am searching a problem

with your graphic setting, graphic driver or card. The uploaded CAD Data is good.

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:10:59 GMT

wow, that's very weird. I just walked around to a few peoples computers and tested it. It seems to work just fine on half of the computers I checked. Must be some obscure setting, or my autocad is corrupt. The HQGEOM didn't help anything.

Also, if I explode the block, the lines work perfectly fine.

Re: Hidden lines in metric block displays continuous in imperial drawing.

Julio_Soto — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:22:40 GMT

@cadffm wrote:

You uploaded the "real" data now, thanks. (next time, please let us play with the real data from start on)

But i didn't get problems.

Please test it again with your own uploaded files and perhaps try it with HQGEOM on/off

Tested with 2013 and 2019

~length 364 with metric linetypedefinition

~length 14.36 in imperial size and imperial linetypedefinition displays (as expected) the same optical result.

But again: Your (first) picture is "impossible", when it is "impossible" for usual i am searching a problem

with your graphic setting, graphic driver or card. The uploaded CAD Data is good.

Turns out HQGEOM was the issue. It changed it last time and it didn't seem to work, but it works now. Unfortunately I have to look at blurry arcs now 😞

thanks for your help!