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    <title>topic Re: 3D model, lines in layout and dimension in AutoCAD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;It doesn't work that way if you draw a line in paperspace and then dimension it.&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:01:49 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Patchy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-01-28T19:01:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>3D model, lines in layout and dimension</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9280424#M115339</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm a AutoCAD beginner.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I create 3D model:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="3dm" style="width: 200px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/722546i0D74BA9AFAE1D453/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="3dm.jpg" alt="3dm" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;3dm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now, after that i go to Layout1 and create it view. (Layout Panel --&amp;gt; Create View --&amp;gt; Base --&amp;gt; From Model Space).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Below drawing are in 1:1 scale.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="d1.jpg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/722552i0508012FE864B353/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="d1.jpg" alt="d1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;By using Annotation i created Dimension on model with 1:1 and with 2:1&amp;nbsp;scale - both results are equal and correct.&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="d2.jpg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/722555iF9D449657350C655/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="d2.jpg" alt="d2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I create the red Line in layout by using Home --&amp;gt; Draw panel like in below image on both objects and used again Dimension.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="d4.jpg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/722560i7264C97B361780C9/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="d4.jpg" alt="d4.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now lengths are different - i understand why (scales are different) but is there a way to correct or control scale/space for Dimension tool after changing object scale?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for help,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A.M.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:47:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-28T18:47:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3D model, lines in layout and dimension</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9280463#M115340</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It doesn't work that way if you draw a line in paperspace and then dimension it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="No No.JPG" style="width: 983px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/722572i17B03C5A6B7C0830/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="No No.JPG" alt="No No.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:01:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9280463#M115340</guid>
      <dc:creator>Patchy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-28T19:01:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3D model, lines in layout and dimension</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9280888#M115341</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ok, thanks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could you show/write me how should i do this in property way? -&amp;nbsp;of course, if that's not a problem.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A.M.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:22:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9280888#M115341</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-28T22:22:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3D model, lines in layout and dimension</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9280996#M115342</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you are dimensioning an object that is in model space in paper space then as long as you osnap to the object you will get model space dims.&amp;nbsp; If you draw in paper space and then dimension it in paper space you will get 1:1 dimensions.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Why are you drawing lines in paper space when the object is in model space?&amp;nbsp; Your intent is unclear.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 23:33:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9280996#M115342</guid>
      <dc:creator>GrantsPirate</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-28T23:33:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3D model, lines in layout and dimension</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9281054#M115343</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As I wrote before I'm a beginner in AutoCAD but not in 3D math, graphics etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I thought there is a fluid way to convert from one to another space but now i start to understand that AutoCAD tread spaces as separable "beings" as long as you do not use directly chspace command or snap to the object from paper space into model space (an implicit spaces conversion form "frame to frame") any operation will be in space which was it done.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Am I right?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A.M.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2020 00:18:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9281054#M115343</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-29T00:18:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3D model, lines in layout and dimension</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9281075#M115344</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;@Anonymous,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Are you looking for a workaround like this? Adjusting the &lt;EM&gt;scale factor&lt;/EM&gt; within the Dimension Style manager settings should resolve this for you.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;div class="video-embed-center video-embed"&gt;&lt;iframe class="embedly-embed" src="https://cdn.embedly.com/widgets/media.html?src=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2FRaWR9toeuyM%3Fstart%3D29%26feature%3Doembed%26start%3D29&amp;amp;display_name=YouTube&amp;amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRaWR9toeuyM&amp;amp;image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FRaWR9toeuyM%2Fhqdefault.jpg&amp;amp;type=text%2Fhtml&amp;amp;schema=youtube" width="400" height="225" scrolling="no" title="AutoCAD Scale Drawing Without Changing Dimensions | AutoCAD Scale Object but not Dimensions" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; fullscreen; encrypted-media; picture-in-picture;" allowfullscreen="true"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Please&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN style="color: #008000;"&gt;"Accept Solution"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;if a reply or replies have helped resolve the issue or answered&amp;nbsp;your question, to help others in the community.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2020 00:32:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9281075#M115344</guid>
      <dc:creator>natasha.l</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-29T00:32:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3D model, lines in layout and dimension</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9281115#M115345</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello &lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3986474"&gt;@natasha.l&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Well i did found this option eariel but... it's complicated &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The real problem was in my AutoCAD understanding - spaces convention and operations in it (model and paper space).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Now i know more or less how it is done and all of you gived me several clues to understand that - i think so...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have to play with it longer to be sure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks all of you,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A.M.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2020 01:17:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/3d-model-lines-in-layout-and-dimension/m-p/9281115#M115345</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-29T01:17:49Z</dc:date>
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