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    <title>topic Betreff: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines in AutoCAD Forum</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500966#M105116</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[ESC]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[ESC]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Select ONLY "one" of the lines.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now you see all 16 selected?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ungroup works fine, but only for groups. RightClick, Groups-&amp;gt; Ungroup = Greyed out? -&amp;gt; isn't a Group&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and Right Click -&amp;gt; Is "Block Editor" available?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then it is a Blockreference.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Use it, start BlockEditor(command: BEDIT) Inside the BlockEditor, open your PropertiesPalette, scroll down, enable allow exploding&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BSAVE&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BCLOSE&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;try it again&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 06:27:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-05-08T06:27:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500810#M105114</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;please help i have a '16 line' group i want to ungroup, won't accept 'explode or xplode' command and option to 'degroup' is greyed out as it is a 'group. any help apprecaited!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 11:55:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500810#M105114</guid>
      <dc:creator>maddyj</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-08T11:55:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500907#M105115</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looks like you have grouped more than one group together and its become nested group. Try using the command "UNGROUP" and see if it works. If not try posting your file so that we can have a look.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 06:01:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500907#M105115</guid>
      <dc:creator>vinodkl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-08T06:01:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500966#M105116</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[ESC]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[ESC]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Select ONLY "one" of the lines.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now you see all 16 selected?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ungroup works fine, but only for groups. RightClick, Groups-&amp;gt; Ungroup = Greyed out? -&amp;gt; isn't a Group&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and Right Click -&amp;gt; Is "Block Editor" available?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then it is a Blockreference.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Use it, start BlockEditor(command: BEDIT) Inside the BlockEditor, open your PropertiesPalette, scroll down, enable allow exploding&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BSAVE&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BCLOSE&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;try it again&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 06:27:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500966#M105116</guid>
      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-08T06:27:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500998#M105117</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Have you checked the LAYER? If it's locked, try unlocking it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 06:42:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9500998#M105117</guid>
      <dc:creator>ChicagoLooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-08T06:42:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9501050#M105118</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;you can explode the block while &lt;STRONG&gt;Insert&lt;/STRONG&gt; command .&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Capture.PNG" style="width: 186px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/767202iB7769806E1EF976A/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="Capture.PNG" alt="Capture.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;also you can change all block behavior to be explode or not from &lt;STRONG&gt;BLOCK&lt;/STRONG&gt; command ( select your block first ) .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Capture1.PNG" style="width: 200px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/767203i18C3A991CCB7C074/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="Capture1.PNG" alt="Capture1.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 07:08:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9501050#M105118</guid>
      <dc:creator>imadHabash</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-08T07:08:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9671389#M105119</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Simple and effective solution - it worked !&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2020 07:47:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/9671389#M105119</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-08-04T07:47:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/12990887#M105120</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hey could you help me i haveing same issue&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 07:52:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/12990887#M105120</guid>
      <dc:creator>KRD023</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-08-30T07:52:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/12991211#M105121</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background: var(--ck-color-mention-background); color: var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/15994039"&gt;@KRD023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hello and welcome.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Have you tried the marked solution above from &lt;SPAN style="background: var(--ck-color-mention-background); color: var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2855596"&gt;@vinodkl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 10:59:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/12991211#M105121</guid>
      <dc:creator>CGBenner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-08-30T10:59:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/12991397#M105122</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/15994039"&gt;@KRD023&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;hey could you help me i haveing same issue&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The same issue with what?&amp;nbsp; Have you tried not only the accepted solution [using UNGROUP] but also evaluated for whether what you cannot Explode is a &lt;STRONG&gt;Block&lt;/STRONG&gt;?&amp;nbsp; [Blocks can be defined to not allow Exploding, but you can fix that.]&amp;nbsp; Most importantly, &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;what happens&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; when you try Exploding or Ungrouping?&amp;nbsp; Post a small drawing file containing whatever you are having the issue with.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 12:40:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/12991397#M105122</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kent1Cooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-08-30T12:40:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/13002678#M105123</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background: var(--ck-color-mention-background); color: var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/15994039"&gt;@KRD023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt; Hello, do you still need help with this question?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2024 13:39:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/13002678#M105123</guid>
      <dc:creator>CGBenner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-05T13:39:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/13319914#M105124</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Layer is unlocked. Ungroup &amp;amp; explode still not working. I can add to the group but not separate it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 16:50:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/13319914#M105124</guid>
      <dc:creator>steve_delabastide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-14T16:50:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/13319955#M105125</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Just an idea&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;share your sample drawing&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:15:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-14T17:15:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/13320262#M105126</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/16919832"&gt;@steve_delabastide&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Look up PICKSTYLE variable in your program's HELP and turn if off. Is your group now ungrouped?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also.. start LIST command (type it), select this GROUP and see what AutoCAD things it is at the commandline (that needs to be 5-10-15 lines tall for this example). PROPERTIES command, if you have that palette open, will also tell you what that ungrouped GROUP is. Share those results here.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 20:08:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/13320262#M105126</guid>
      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-14T20:08:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-explode-or-ungroup-a-group-of-lines/m-p/13320582#M105127</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hi again, &lt;STRONG&gt;may I &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;wild&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; guess?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; because that is the only logical explanation &lt;U&gt;I&lt;/U&gt; see&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. You are really talking about Groups &lt;EM&gt;(the topic above was about blocks, just the title and description just used the wrong vocabulary)&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Your statement "I can add to the group " is not correct,&lt;STRONG&gt; you mean you can &lt;U&gt;create a new&lt;/U&gt; group&lt;/STRONG&gt;!?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Thanks to pendeans "Also.. start LIST command ", which led me to a test and indirectly to the following assumptions:&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. &lt;STRONG&gt;You are talking about existing group only&lt;/STRONG&gt;? Draw two new circles, group them and ungroups works too?&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; What you do is: Object selection, contextmenu (rightclick) -&amp;gt; Group -&amp;gt; [Group] [Ungroup] [Add to Group] [Remove from Group] ?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;4. Now, you have an existing group, you click on an object, the group is highlighted and you open the context menu -&amp;gt; Group&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;What you see is that just the first menu item available only: GROUP&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; (when you said "I can add to the group ", you mean this, what create a new group - not add an object to the existing group)&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;All three other context menu items are greyed out. Is this what you see on your side, is this your issue?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;If so:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You selected objects who are members of two or more groups!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Greyed out, but the commands behind are still working well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Try command: UNGROUP&lt;BR /&gt;Try command: GROUPEDIT option ADD&lt;BR /&gt;Try command: GROUPEDIT option REM&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Also available in ribbon, start, Panel group&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2025/ENU/?guid=GUID-7E8521C8-B746-40CA-AF2F-39BD0F7AC9C2" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;See also, the free help and &lt;STRONG&gt;product documentation [F1]&lt;/STRONG&gt; for more information about Groups, group commands and variables.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2025 00:53:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-15T00:53:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
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      <description>Good morning,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Many thanks for your reply. Kinda weird that some of my grouped units I can ungroup, but then some I cannot. Even the explode won't work.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Steve&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 12:58:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>steve_delabastide</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-18T12:58:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Steve,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;"Kinda weird that some of my grouped units I can ungroup, but then some I cannot."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is with my possible explaination (above)?"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;"Even the explode won't work."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you have two circle, what should command Explode do with them?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Please,&lt;/STRONG&gt; we like to learn: Share your sample! .dwg (you can delete what you like, except the one example of group)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:03:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-18T13:03:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cannot 'explode' or ungroup a group of lines</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/16919832"&gt;@steve_delabastide&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;...Kinda weird that some of my grouped units I can ungroup, but then some I cannot....&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Show us: share that actual DWG file here with those objects in them. if you cannot, go ask your boss/client for permission or ask them to help with your issue perhaps.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:42:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-02-18T13:42:11Z</dc:date>
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