topic Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams in AutoCAD Electrical Forum

Electrical One Line Diagrams

Anonymous — Thu, 14 May 2015 16:48:48 GMT

Can I use AutoCAD Electrical to create one line diagrams for roadway traffic cabinet power distribution? Can it also create electrical load panel schedules or do I need AutoCAD MEP or Revit MEP to do that?

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Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

Icemanau — Fri, 15 May 2015 00:36:37 GMT

ACADE can do the SLD's and they tie back to the schematics similar to the footprints. You change a rating or tag and it propgates through the dwgs as normal. The only difference is that the symbols have '_1-' on the end of the file name to allow ACADE to differentiate between a schematic symbol and the one line symbol.

There is also a Power Check function and associated report but as I have only rarely played with it, I can't really help in what it can and can't do.

Regards Brad

Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

testsubject — Fri, 15 May 2015 12:36:35 GMT

I tried using the power check tool and it is terrible. It was an idea that never got fully fleshed out.

Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2015 13:12:04 GMT

If in a single line diagram drawing I create a main distribution panel showing the feeder breakers and their branches, is there a away to get a schedule for that main distribution panel in AutoCAD Electrical or perhaps by using the other MEP AutoCAD or Revit software? Currently I just draw out one line diagrams for roadway equipment circuits in another CAD software called Microstation and then create load tables in excel. I'm trying to determine if working with AutoCAD electrical would be more efficient.

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Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

dougmcalexander — Fri, 15 May 2015 14:05:06 GMT

By making use of the installation and location code functions you can create a BOM for any panel in a system and you can generate a from/to wire list for all connections inside any panel or generate wire schedules for the wires connecting between panels.

Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2015 14:23:22 GMT

I apologize but I am very new to AutoCAD and am not familiar with the term "BOM". I will take the time to learn these things myself but in the interim please answer me this: Can I use the software to create a panel schedule showing me the load on each breaker in the panel and load balancing should the circuit be three phase? Also, once the circuit is complete, can I get voltage drop information from the software?

Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

dougmcalexander — Fri, 15 May 2015 15:12:52 GMT

BOM stands for Bill of Materials or parts list. Think of AutoCAD Electrical as a documentation tool. It does not do the engineering for us, nor does it simulate the function of a circuit. It is a tool that makes us more efficient at documenting our design. It does include a certa8n level of error analysis, such as warnings for duplicated device identifiers, duplicated wire numbers, components missing a part number assignment, wires not connected, components with a wire connection that has no wire connected, and more. It will also warn when you try to associate too many contacts to a relay. In certain circumstances it will warn of the possibility of a short circuit, but it is really just warning you that you are attempting to feed a circuit from two separate power sources.

Like testsubject said, there is a utility called Power Check that was added just before Autodesk purchased the program. They have not automated this feature. In its present state you can add load data to components in a circuit and later generate a report that totals the load data for the circuit. But the software doesn't automatically figure out how much current a component draws. It simply allows you to add this data to the component symbols in a circuit and later generate a total load value report.

Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2015 15:34:09 GMT

So you're saying there is no way for AutoCAD Electrical to generate the type of electrical panel schedule as seen in AutoCAD MEP or Revit MEP and it can't be done by importing the drawing/schematic to one of those either. If that is the case, is there another software that you recommend that can perform this task?

Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

ccad2509 — Mon, 18 May 2015 08:21:20 GMT

lots of options out there here is some that i have found

as for ones that do exactley what you want you need to do some investigating your self

01 Aveva electrical Aveva SQL Based http://www.aveva.com/en/Products_and_Services/Product_Finder.aspx#open:12953794-EAE9-4F0B-96B9-37A129A4774A

02 Cadett Slsa Cadett DWG + Database orientated http://www.cadett.com/

03 Cadprofi CADprofi http://www.cadprofi.com/main/en/products/cadprofi-electrical

04 Cosmos Siemens SQL Based http://w3.siemens.com/mcms/plant-engineering-software/en/comos-platform/Pages/Default.aspx

05 Ecscad Man And Machine Sold by Autodesk

06 Elecdes Scada Systems DWG + Database orientated http://elecdes.com/electrical-cad-software/elecdes-electrical-cad-software

07 Eleckworks Trace Software DWG + Database orientated http://www.elecworks.com/index.aspx

08 Electra E6 Xetec Limited Visio based electrical http://www.xetec.eu/

09 Elprocad Procad Systems Ab DWG + Database orientated http://www.elprocad.com/Comparison-Feutures.html

10 Engineering base Aucotec https://www.aucotec.com/landing/aucotec.php

11 Eplan Rittal Database Based http://www.eplan.co.uk/uk/start

12 Ige-Xao Ige-Xao Group SQL Database and cad Engine http://www.ige-xao.com/software-editor/electrical-cad-software.html

12 PCschematic Pc|Schematic A/S Propriety cad format http://www.pcschematic.com/en/index.htm

14 Promis e Bentley Systems DWG + Database orientated http://www.bentley.com/en-GB/Products/promise/

15 Proplan Ampersoft http://www.amperesoft.net/

16 QC Cad Ska Systems DWG + Database orientated http://www.qcecad.com/qc/en

17 Schemelect Ftz Informatique Industrielle http://www.ftz.fr/v4/en/cad-software-design/electrical-drawing-schematic-diagram

18 Smartplant Electrical Integraph DWG + Database orientated http://www.intergraph.com/products/ppm/smartplant/electrical/default.aspx

19 Solidworks Electrical Dassault Systems SQL Based http://www.solidworks.co.uk/sw/products/electrical-design/solidworks-electrical.htm

20 Winrelay Ingerea http://www.ingerea.com/WinRelay.html

21 Wscad Buhl Data Group SQL Based http://www.wscad.de/en/electrocad/

21 Zuken e3 Zuken DWG + Database orientated http://www.zuken.com/en

Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

Anonymous — Mon, 18 May 2015 19:34:51 GMT

If AutoCAD Electrical can tell me the load on the breakers in the main distribution panel, can I have that data linked and exported to an excel spreadsheet?

Re: Electrical One Line Diagrams

ccad2509 — Tue, 19 May 2015 07:42:53 GMT

i think your using the wrong software for cable loads /breaker sizing ,diversity /standards compliance in the uk we use this http://www.amtech.co.uk/prodesign look for the equivalent software where your based