topic Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD) in AutoCAD Electrical Forum

DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Wed, 19 Feb 2020 02:48:00 GMT

Hi Guys

I am using AS standards for my project. On inserting a contractor ,I go to icon menu > motor control >motor starter coil.On inserting the coil by default the tag comes up as k1 (k followed by the next sequential number).Now on inserting the NO power contacts I go to icon menu > motor control >motor starter 3 Pole NO (Power) but the default tag on the child comes as QA. Although when I link them ,all tags are changed to k1.

But am wondering if the default tag for Power Contractor in Australian Standards would be K1 or QA1 .

Thanks for reading.

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Feb 2020 08:07:14 GMT

K is commonly used for relay / contactor and Q is for Switching devices for power circuits eg. circuit breakers. It also depends on company / industry standards, eg. CB is more commonly used Switching devices for power circuits.

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

rhesusminus — Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:53:32 GMT

I just checked the symbols in the AS2 symbol library that comes with AcadE.

If you insert a motor starter (contactor) it should get the code Q.
A relay should get K.

Did you set up your project to reference the AS2 library? Also, did you you purge the drawing for unused blocks before inserting?

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:48:19 GMT

Yes I setup my project to reference to as2. I am using AutoCAD Electrical 2019.I have attached my schematic project properties.I don't anything about Purge.But on your recommendation I did Purge All and now the motor starter poles also come up as 'K'. Why and how purge changed this is confusing me but anyway Thanks for going that far as I am aware there are not a lot of AutoCAD Electrical users using as2 standard.

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

rhesusminus — Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:53:21 GMT

Here's a quick video of me trying AS2 symbols. They should be Q...

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:27:46 GMT

Could 2019 version be different?

Where am I going wrong. Dam..

I did the exact same thing.

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

rhesusminus — Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:30:01 GMT

Zip up your project and share here... And I'll take a look.

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:32:34 GMT

I will do that after 2 days when I go back to work. Really appreciate it.Thanks

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:20:02 GMT

Hi Mate

Can I get your email address for sharing the zipped project ?

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:45:54 GMT

Also I opened HMS21P Drawing from as2 library and checked what was the default value for TAG..it showed k.I think in 2018 or 2019 it was defined as K.But am not sure.Have attached the picture.

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

rhesusminus — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 06:09:56 GMT

thl@ctrlaltel.com

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

rhesusminus — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 19:25:14 GMT

In the folder C:\Swick\AUTOCAD ELECTRICAL LIBRARY\Swick Custom Symbols

Do you have the symbols HMS21P and HMS1 etc. in there?

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 04:58:48 GMT

Nope.

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

rhesusminus — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 06:34:56 GMT

Make a backup of te project, and run the library swap option in the Block Swap/Update tool.
Swap to AS2.
When you insert new components now, what letter do they get?

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:44:07 GMT

Just did that .It hasn't changed the tags.Although some of the attributes have been moved. Good you asked me to take a backup .haha

Now I am pretty certain AutoCAD Electrical 2019 has different tags compared to Autocad Electrical 2020 in AS2 standard.

Re: DEFAULT TAG FOR CONTACTOR IN AS (AUSTRALIAN STANDARD)

stalin.varghese90 — Tue, 03 Mar 2020 08:24:52 GMT

@dougmcalexander

I was reading through more on standards and found your website.Would you be able to know which tag is correct for a Contactor in AS2 standard ?