topic Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install in AutoCAD Architecture Forum

Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 04:43:14 GMT

1. Download and install Orca from Microsoft.
2. Copy the installation files to your hard drive or a network folder.
3. Backup the files ACA.msi and Setup.ini
4. Edit the ACA.msi with Orca and delete the action found in the table
"InstallExecuteSequence" that is called "CheckFor64BitOS" Delete the same
line under table "CustomAction"
5. Save and close the ACA.msi
6. Edit the Setup.ini with Notepad. Delete the line under
"#==================== Platform Requirement" that is labeled
"PLATFORM=NO_WOW_64_PROCESS"
7. Double-click the Setup.exe and you should be able to install without any
problems.
8. Some support paths under the "Files" tab of the configuration dialog box
have incorrect paths. The installer adds and extra "\AppData\AppData" to
some support paths located in the user profile. For example the Main
Customization File's path is listed as
"C:\Users\%username%\AppData\AppData\AppData\Roaming\Autodesk\ACD-A
2008\enu\Support\ADT" when it should be
"C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\Autodesk\ACD-A 2008\enu\Support\ADT"
Fix the incorrect paths, hit apply, and you are good to go.

I wonder why the ADT team chose to disable 64 bit installs. The program
seems to function fine in Vista 64 bit. ADT 2006 and 2007 installed without
a hitch on this same system even though you had to set them to run as ADMIN
in order to be able to use them, so I am not buying the whole "the ARX
programs don't work with 64 bit" argument. I switched to Revit a few years
ago anyway, but it is a shame what they are doing to ADT. Peace out.

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:07:52 GMT

This works... installed this morning. No issues so far...
At the end of the install the installer brought up two dialog boxes that were empty with only an 'OK' option. Clicked these and the program installed but would not run. Ran a repair from the add/remove program list and everything is OK now.
Thanks for posting this.

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:41:37 GMT

Hey Poster. Nice work. Is there a way of achieveing this in a stand-alone install?

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:48:25 GMT

Just copy the disk to your hard drive/shared drive, modify as necessary, and then run the setup.exe from the drive that you copied to. Select 'stand-alone' install from the ACA 2008 configuration tab during the install and everything should be just as if you were installing from the disk.

Orcad 2008

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:16:58 GMT

We need a new newsgroup for Orcad 2008.
Tom

Re: Orcad 2008

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:52:44 GMT

Ha, ha. Good one.

"Tom DeMita" wrote in message
news:5554001@discussion.autodesk.com...
We need a new newsgroup for Orcad 2008.
Tom

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:46:47 GMT

Poster wrote:
> so I am not buying the whole "the ARX
> programs don't work with 64 bit" argument.

If you have not ever dealt with these issues on a programming level I
would expect you to casually overlook them. That does not mean, however,
that they are not real.
There is no conspiracy here Poser, just caution for a platform that has
never been tested or supported with ADT/ACA (read: 64bit OS's).

--
David Kurtz
Autodesk Support
Manchester, NH

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:41:59 GMT

The name is Poster not Poser. 🙂

So you guys have tested Revit with 64 bit? That does not have the 64 bit OS
check, and the older versions of ADT did not as well. Why the change now?

I am not saying there is a conspiracy, just a very clear message being
transmitted here.

"David Kurtz (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5555015@discussion.autodesk.com...
Poster wrote:
> so I am not buying the whole "the ARX
> programs don't work with 64 bit" argument.

If you have not ever dealt with these issues on a programming level I
would expect you to casually overlook them. That does not mean, however,
that they are not real.
There is no conspiracy here Poser, just caution for a platform that has
never been tested or supported with ADT/ACA (read: 64bit OS's).

--
David Kurtz
Autodesk Support
Manchester, NH

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:47:01 GMT

Kudos to you Poster for the elegant solution to our misery and for sharing it generously. I did a stand-alone install on XPx64, it was easy and had no issues what so ever. Thank you.

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:52:16 GMT

Is Mr Kurtz dead???

I don't use ADT 08, but find it very interesting that ADT 04 works fine on
Win XP 64 bit, in 32 bit mode. Does ADT 087 not work at all, even in 32 bit
mode?? Has there been new stuff added to 08 that would make it not work in
64 bit.

Like Win XP 64, hasn't been out long enough? Isn't everyone going to 64
bit? Seems pretty stupid not to have the latest version of a software work
on a more current OS?? Mr Kurtz????

Cheers Peter.

wrote in message news:5555833@discussion.autodesk.com...
Kudos to you Poster for the elegant solution to our misery and for sharing
it generously. I did a stand-alone install on XPx64, it was easy and had no
issues what so ever. Thank you.

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:04:17 GMT

While posters work-around is a great solution for those who already have a 64bit machine, Autodesk will not support it. There is a 64bit version of autocad, but few of the verticals have been ported to the 64bit environment. I guess Adesk have a time frame for this (if ever) but they are unwilling to tell us.

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:44:13 GMT

This method is confirmed for MEP 2008 as well - created a local copy of the files from the DVD on my hard drive, modified the msi file using ORCA, and the ini file as instructed - everything works great. I've also burned a DVD to have a backup image, and the DVD works to install the program as well.

Well done Poster!

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Thu, 03 May 2007 19:54:18 GMT

thank you very much poster, this worked great.
introducing me to that ORCA tool has opened up a new avenue for hacking other programs.
in other news...
autodesk - please get with the program and fix this with a service pack or something.

thanks again!

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Fri, 11 May 2007 15:29:34 GMT

I have tried to open the ACA.MSI file but with no use. I have edited the setup.ini. If you have the ACA.MSI file edited already can you please e-mail it to me @ mikemoore@mjmdesignstudios.com

Thanks
MJMoore

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Fri, 11 May 2007 16:11:40 GMT

Rather than inviting what is likely a violation of the EULA, you might try contacting Autodesk Support for revised installation files and instructions, as noted by Jeff Agla in a post in this thread:
http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=553068

See below for the text of the relevant post.

--

David Koch
Autodesk Discussion Group Facilitator
Using ADT 2004 at work; access to 2005, 2006 & 2007 at home

Reply From: Jeff Agla - Autodesk
Date: May/04/07 - 15:15 (EDT)

Re: when will 64 bit OS be supported?
We have experienced a growing number of customer reports regarding the install of AutoCAD Architecture 2008 on a 64-bit Operating System. We do realize that users were able to install previous versions of AutoCAD Architecture on 64 bit systems knowing it was not supported. Due to this demand, our development team has provided us with a workaround for the issue.

We are aware of the growing number of users who are upgrading their machines and OS to 64 bit. To accommodate these users we are working on a true 64 bit application, but due to government regulations we cannot provide any further
details at this time.

Please contact Autodesk Support to obtain the files and installation instructions.

Thank you, we appreciate all of your comments and feedback.

Jeff Agla

Product Manager AutoCAD Architecture

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Mon, 14 May 2007 09:31:59 GMT

Yes... what he said... You wouldn't want to do ANYTHING to voilate the EULA rules (does anybody actually read that stuff anymore?)... You never know when you might get in trouble for changing the install files so that the program actually WORKS. I wouldn't want to get in trouble for aiding and abetting such a heinous crime.

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Mon, 14 May 2007 17:07:07 GMT

Did you actually read the post or did you just flip out LOL

"kkilgore" wrote in message news:5584738@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes... what he said... You wouldn't want to do ANYTHING to voilate the EULA
rules (does anybody actually read that stuff anymore?)... You never know
when you might get in trouble for changing the install files so that the
program actually WORKS. I wouldn't want to get in trouble for aiding and
abetting such a heinous crime.

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Mon, 14 May 2007 17:18:10 GMT

Actually I've been wanting to flip out for about this for some time now... I've just been waiting for some bait.
That was fun. Now I feel greatly relieved.
There's nothing quite like a little whining on a public forum to bring peace to the mind.
:)

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

kwinters — Mon, 14 May 2007 18:38:59 GMT

I'm with you!!! The work around is great...but for the money we pay for a professionally developed product...I would rather have the original "out of the box" product work from the get go. This lack of attention to basic details and customer service is disappointing.

Re: Updated Workaround instructions for 64 Bit OS Install

Anonymous — Tue, 15 May 2007 13:57:49 GMT

>>This lack of attention to basic details and customer service is
>>disappointing.

Oh it's much worse than that!