topic Re: Create VR - Why Alias? in Alias Forum

Create VR - Why Alias?

Neil_Cross — Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:08:51 GMT

First off, congratulations for doing what you've done here. Clearly this is very first gen, it's functionally limited and buggy, but it's a huge first step towards a future of realistic design in VR with this solid foundation hopefully starting it all.

What I'd love to know though is this. Conceptual design is something which applies to every industry, and indeed almost every Autodesk discipline/hero product, so why is this incredible leap forward in immersive design limited to Alias Autostudio customers? Is it because the Alias the team are the only ones pushing boundaries? Are the other teams just outright uninterested in this so neglected to collaborate on the project? Was this a higher C level decision to restrict this technology to Alias? Curious. You guys know the reach of your products but clearly something like Inventor and/or Fusion 360 even some aspects of Revit would be equally as relevant for Create VR, with a massively greater reach, I can't talk to people about this because nobody can ride the momentum of excitement and go try it for themselves... this is behind a huge paywall for most of Autodesks customers.

So yea, just curious why this starts in Alias.

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

Anonymous — Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:40:15 GMT

Create VR is also included in Alias Surface (just been playing with it, cool), so maybe not such a huge paywall to entry, relatively speaking compared to AutoStudio.

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

colin.smith — Fri, 18 Oct 2019 18:25:59 GMT

Hi @Anonymous & @Neil_Cross

Alias Create VR is available is all 3 Alias products - Automotive, Surface and Concept.

Cheers,

Colin

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 05:00:58 GMT

I'm a senior in Transportation Design at the Cleveland Institute of Art. A Lead Designer at Ford Motor Company and myself have been working in Gravity Sketch VR because there doesn't seem to be an option to meet with other designers in Alias VR 2021 even though I do all of my modelling in Alias.

Is there a reason why the industries leading software company for Automotive Design hasn't developed a way for the industries leading designers and digital sculptors to meet and design in Virtual Reality???

Autodesk should be out in front of this and not following the lead of a free VR software like Gravity Sketch. Autodesk users pay thousands of dollars to sit in the back seat of innovation. Customer Service is impossible to get a hold of a human being. You phased out Speedform without telling anyone! What is Autodesk doing?? Do you just disregard all feedback from paying customers?

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

Neil_Cross — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 08:49:00 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

I'm a senior in Transportation Design at the Cleveland Institute of Art. A Lead Designer at Ford Motor Company and myself have been working in Gravity Sketch VR because there doesn't seem to be an option to meet with other designers in Alias VR 2021 even though I do all of my modelling in Alias.

Is there a reason why the industries leading software company for Automotive Design hasn't developed a way for the industries leading designers and digital sculptors to meet and design in Virtual Reality???

Autodesk should be out in front of this and not following the lead of a free VR software like Gravity Sketch. Autodesk users pay thousands of dollars to sit in the back seat of innovation. Customer Service is impossible to get a hold of a human being. You phased out Speedform without telling anyone! What is Autodesk doing?? Do you just disregard all feedback from paying customers?

Just because someone doesn't know about something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Autodesk do have a way for multiple designers to meet in VR, it's in Vred which is bundled in with Alias Autostudio, and they did it years before Gravity Sketch did it. Is it better or worse? I don't know, but it's there.

There's an argument for it to also be within Alias but it isn't, it still exists though. Curious that you don't know about this, Ford Motor Company are a Vred customer

This is the Vred software multi-user design review feature. Ford have this, there's a good chance they're using it too.

Might be prudent to ask internally about these things. I don't know all the facts but I would strongly speculate that Ford Motor Company are likely an Autodesk Enterprise Priority customer, Autodesk likely have support staff employed purely to support and speak to Ford along with dedicated account managers, so if you genuinely are a lead designer at Ford I'd inquire about these things internally. I understand companies can get so big and fragmented that processes are not properly communicated across into different offices or departments. But considering Ford are making customer reference marketing pieces with Autodesk, it's not unreasonable to assume there's a high level relationship there. And don't forget your comments after stating you work at Ford...

"Autodesk users pay thousands of dollars to sit in the back seat of innovation"

...are representative of and reflect on Ford , as per their digital participation guidelines

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 15:17:13 GMT

Thank you for the reply, but it seems as though you’ve misread my comments.

I am a student working with someone else at Ford. I did NOT say that I work at Ford.

I will look into the Vred VR meeting tools, thanks for educating me on that!

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

colin.smith — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 15:18:19 GMT

HI@Anonymous and @Neil_Cross ,

While Neil is correct that this feature exists in VRED, and that it is very effective for multi-person design review, we definitely see the need for multi user support in Alias Create VR. It's on our list for a future release however timing is TBD at the moment as we wanted to make sure the the creation tools are completed before moving on to a large project like multi-person support. Thanks for your feedback!

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 15:24:35 GMT

So in Gravity Sketch all collaborators are able to draw digital tape lines to show where corrections need to be made, they can all manipulate cv’s, edges and faces in order to make changes, and moving around the scene is far easier because if you grab the environment and want to look at the vehicle upside-down it doesn’t change the environment in any other user’s environment.

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 15:27:23 GMT

Colin, thanks for your reply! I can appreciate that it takes to to develop and get feedback from users.

I look forward to seeing the new developments in Alias!

Cheers!

Mat

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

Neil_Cross — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 15:46:27 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Thank you for the reply, but it seems as though you’ve misread my comments.

I am a student working with someone else at Ford. I did NOT say that I work at Ford.

I will look into the Vred VR meeting tools, thanks for educating me on that!

My bad, apologies, it was early.

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

Anonymous — Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:51:04 GMT

"legacy XR is currently disabled. Unity has detected that you have one or more XR SDK provider packages installed." how do I fix this? where can I find these XR SDK? I looked for them in package manager and I can´t find them. myindigocard

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

colin.smith — Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:15:06 GMT

@Anonymous ,

Do you have Create VR on this machine that you are running Unity on?

Thanks,

Colin

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

qzwbla — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 03:26:14 GMT

Re: Create VR - Why Alias?

qzwbla — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 03:25:23 GMT

I received my Pico 4 headset， BUT it is actually showing the HTC VIVE controllers，Its operation experience is poor。
should like quest 2 controllers,or is it possible to change controllers avatars

create VR