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J3.4 Minimum Bolt Edge Distance check

gtpiephoff — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 12:21:04 GMT

I am working with ADVS for the first time, as is everyone at my company, so we are not the most adept at using it. Right now I am trying to check a connection that was modeled. It is a "gusset plate at one diagonal" connection. I have gone through all the inputs in the connections window and verified that they are correct. It is also visually correct. I have a 200 mm bf angle, the bolts have an intermediate distance of 100 mm, meaning there is 50 mm edge distance on each of the other sides. For whatever reason though, when I run the report under the Joint Design section, the J3.4 Minimum Bolt Edge Distance check fails. It says the bolt edge distance is 0 mm. That is simply untrue and you can tell just by looking at it. There is very little information I have been able to find, but what I have seen implies that I might have to mess with the management tools settings.

If anyone has any ideas, could you please let me know. Also let me know if I can provide any extra information.

Re: J3.4 Minimum Bolt Edge Distance check

gtpiephoff — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 12:34:17 GMT

For more clarification, what little I found online was pointing to these settings here. It says those four are "factors" that are multiplied by the hole diameter to get max/min edge distances? How does that make any sense, multiplying a diameter which is a unit of length times a factor that the settings is declaring is also a unit of length? Would that not result in area since its two units of length being multiplied?

Do I need to change these to anything different? These are how they came. My thought is if they really are multiplying the hole diameter by those factors to get the edge distance, then wouldn't having the max edge distance factors as zero mean the max will always be 0? But that is how the settings come, and changing it did not seem to have any effect?

Re: J3.4 Minimum Bolt Edge Distance check

Jonathan3891 — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 14:45:10 GMT

Are you designing to AISC codes?

Try changing the design forces to EC3

Re: J3.4 Minimum Bolt Edge Distance check

gtpiephoff — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 14:51:11 GMT

I am designing to AISC codes so sadly I can't just flip it to EC3.

Re: J3.4 Minimum Bolt Edge Distance check

Jonathan3891 — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 14:54:03 GMT

After another look it appears that your model is metric but all the units in Management Tools are imperial.

How we have it setup is we select the country settings after startup, which is United States for Imperial and International for Metric. Each of those load a different Management Tools profile, one being for imperial and the other for metric.

I dont know if this could cause the issues your having but I'd recommend setting it up this way.