topic Re: full penetration butt weld symbol in Advance Steel Forum

full penetration butt weld symbol

rahulmhaskar20 — Mon, 14 Nov 2016 10:59:46 GMT

Hi People,

I am making a full penetration weld symbol amd was able to make it modifying weldtemplate.dwg. But i am not able to get rid of the thickness shown in the symbol when i insert it in my drawing. is there any solution?. Also can we insert a notation for angle of weld in the symbol?

Thanks.

Rahul.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

markhubrich — Mon, 14 Nov 2016 17:46:41 GMT

Which one of these did you have in mind?

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

rahulmhaskar20 — Mon, 14 Nov 2016 17:49:02 GMT

Single bevel and double bevel

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

crydee-AG2 — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:55:55 GMT

Hi,

I think you should find the welds are already defined in the sytem and in the symbol drawings.

Main Weld Type = HV is the "Single Bevel Groove" weld.

HY is the same as HV but the groove only goes half penetration.

K = Double Bevel Groove

X - Double V Groove.

Think of what the cross section looks like and that is where the letters come from.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

rahulmhaskar20 — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:50:45 GMT

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. What i am looking for is to get rid of the thickness in the symbol. I want just the symbol without thickness specified.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

rahulmhaskar20 — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:16:54 GMT

For now, I explode the symbol, delete the thickness value.But is there any solution so that i don't have to explode the symbol?

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

crydee-AG2 — Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:30:55 GMT

Hi,

Welds have standard types and a standard size.

By default, in a drawing welds that are standard do not get any symbol at all.

Welds that are a different type but standard size get a symbol with no size value.

Welds of non standard size get a symbol with both the symbol and size on them even if standard type. It would not make sense to have no size on these smybols.

These are controlled by the Defaults in Management Tools.

Connecting Elements > Welds > Standard Weld Type (Lower Weld) = standard type for Weld Double.

Connecting Elements > Welds > Standard Weld Type (Upper Weld) = standard type for Weld Main.

Connecting Elements > Welds > Standard Weld size = Default size when manually placing welds in the model.

Drawing Labelling > General > Create Weld symbols for thte default thickness = if ticked then ALL welds get labelled with size and symbol.

Drawing Presentation > General > Standard Weld Size in Drawings = this is the size that gets the symbol but no size value.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

rahulmhaskar20 — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 08:20:23 GMT

Hi,

Can you tell me what all things do i have to change to get just the symbol without thickness value? I tried a few changes in manager but was not able to get the result.

Cheers.

Rahul.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

zth3601 — Sun, 11 Jun 2017 02:11:06 GMT

Hi,

Did you solve the question? I find the same problem , but as the AleckGiles' answer , it doesn't work. So do you have the answer?

Thanks very much.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

rahulmhaskar20 — Sun, 11 Jun 2017 18:03:58 GMT

Hi,

I haven't found any way around it. I just explode the symbol and do the tweaks i want.

Cheers.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

zth3601 — Mon, 12 Jun 2017 00:20:46 GMT

It seems that was the fastest way.
Thank you.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

chrisengg — Mon, 12 Jun 2017 05:05:03 GMT

Advance steel weld template has throat thickness defined within it via tokens, you could modify weld template and delete thickness token but that would then not give you thickness of any welds including fillet.So no other option but to explode and delete for butt/bevel welds.I hope they can modify in future release to control weld thickness token.Hope this helps.

Re: full penetration butt weld symbol

ahayes_pl — Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:04:28 GMT

I know this is a little late, but I found a way to eliminate the weld size for the CJP Groove welds as D1.1 requires. If you type in 1/16" for your weld size, because the default min weld size is set to 1/8" the size of the weld will disappear and you do not need to explode the weld symbol so you can still go back and modify it if needed.