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Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

jamie_rosenzweig — Sat, 12 Jun 2021 06:47:57 GMT

I am using AS2020 to create shop drawings. I have edited the drawing process to produce drawing file names for assemblies that have an "A-" prefix. My aim is that the file names contain the prefix then assembly number.

Eg. For an assembly called B1, I want the filename to be A-B1.dwg

When I run the drawing process suite I get the wrong result. It does the following:

What I would expect to see is drawing number 00002, then filename A-B1.dwg. Why does it place the drawing number at the end of the filename as a postfix? Is there a Management Tools setting or something similar that can turn this off? Why/how can I get AS to make the drawing number B1, and file name A-B1.dwg without having to manually rename them.

I have a similar problem with Single Parts so it's not isolated to the %PosNum token. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

AleckGiles — Mon, 14 Jun 2021 13:01:17 GMT

Hi,

There are restrictions on how the filename selector works. You must include something that is guaranteed to give a unique filename even if the same part or assembly is drawn multiple times. Generally, this is either the drawing number or a sequence number. If you don't include one of those then the system will add the drawing number to the end of the filename for you whether you like it or not. So your solution is to manage that by including a sequence number or drawing number in your filename. You can control how many digits it is by putting a2 digit number in brackets at the end of the token e.g. [MA] - %Flat(03) (%Prototype).dwg where %Flat(03) is the three digit drawing number.

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

jamie_rosenzweig — Tue, 15 Jun 2021 11:54:15 GMT

Given my assemblies are unique this is why it was most convenient for the drawings to be B1, B2, C1 etc. There was no way to double up on numbers when creating one assembly per sheet. I guess the AS coding is not that advanced to determine this and assumes otherwise.

Anyways, I have gone with A-%PosNum-%SequenceNumber(02) as a compromise to result A-B1-01.dwg etc. Thanks for your help.

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

AleckGiles — Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:10:22 GMT

Hi,

If you allow duplicate workshop drawings (in Defaults) then you could have a number of drawings of B1 so the filename must be unique for each. Of course it is unusual to allow duplicates but it is possible.

Regards,
Aleck.

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

iwafb — Tue, 15 Jun 2021 22:12:33 GMT

The sequence number is actually a needed feature, and as Aleck said, they separate the filenames when more than one instance of the file exists. This can happen on purpose in some instances (split drawings over more than one sheet), or due to some error (original drawing became de-registered).

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

jamie_rosenzweig — Wed, 16 Jun 2021 00:27:29 GMT

Understood. Thanks for the help.

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

mick-CNF — Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:45:40 GMT

Hi Aleck,

Crashing in on this thread but have a question.

Having seen the info here I have sorted out the file names for the drawings how I want them OK, is it possible to get the file name as the drawing number in the prototype?

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

iwafb — Wed, 16 Jun 2021 22:10:55 GMT

Yes it is, you can use DRAWING_NO as a token

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

iwafb — Wed, 16 Jun 2021 22:12:01 GMT

This is a list of available tokens in the prototypes:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/advance-steel/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/ENU/AdvSteel-Drawings/files/GUID-8831F91F-4AFE-489C-8DCD-CDED8DD64DD1-htm.html

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

mick-CNF — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 07:58:38 GMT

Hi @iwafb,

I have discovered there is a "FILENAME" token.

In the screencast the first drawing was with the DRAWING_NO and the second with the FILENAME.

However it has the file extension on the end, can this be set to not appear?

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

mick-CNF — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 08:00:55 GMT

Screencast.

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

mick-CNF — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 08:04:59 GMT

Try again.

https://autode.sk/3iOfk30

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

iwafb — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 22:21:41 GMT

Ok, the issue there is that advance is reading the internal drawing number.

When you create a drawing manually, example a site plan, and assign a filename manually, AS allows the drawing number and the file name to match. Hence the token works. Think camera details...

When you run a set of drawings through a process, AS assigns an "internal" drawing number and that's why it doesn't work.

I can't see what your mark actually is, but it seems there should be a better way to achieve what you need.

For example:

CN-1234-01-FAB- could be inserted in the lot/phase

Assuming 01, 02... are the assembly marks

In the prototype you could have two tokens in the drawing number area:

Lot/phase (right justified so the text moves left) followed by the assembly number (left justified so the text moves right).

This in turn could release the file names so the drawing process would have more freedom. For example to sort them in categories. Assemblies/loose parts/site plans...

This is just a thought at this stage as I'm not sure what your requirements are...

Re: Shop drawing process filename token is being ignored

jamie_rosenzweig — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 22:47:18 GMT

You could try using a vanilla AutoCAD block attribute combined with a field to display the actual filename. Note: It's name cannot be identical to any AS token as you do not want AS accidentally updating it.

Then use the following settings:

If you place that carefully in your drawing frame combined with one of your other AS tokens you can then get the best of both worlds. Just remember to justify the AutoCAD block attribute and AS token accordingly.