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    <title>tema Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines? en AutoCAD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/691514"&gt;@edezzie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;...I cant do this for a lot of the blocks which is a problem....&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I suspect&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/69526"&gt;@Kent1Cooper&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and others here may be able to help you with LISP customizations to automate more of the basic needs if you are able to provide a more complex DWG file with dozens of sample "problem" blocks to solve.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:12:17 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-07-18T19:12:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm finding AutoCAD to be very buggy of late and wonder is it related to my installation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have attached two drawings.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On one of them is a block, and I cannot edit it in place. It gives an error.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the other are two simple lines that cannot be joined using the join command. It says "objects discarded from the operation".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone confirm what is wrong here?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 06:39:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>edezzie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-17T06:39:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>I don't see the drawings.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2023 18:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>GeeHaa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-16T18:39:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Apologies, they are added now.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 06:39:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>edezzie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-17T06:39:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;never mind..I see the dwg attachments now on your OP&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 06:44:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>paullimapa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-17T06:44:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;One of your line is not so planar ! This is why&amp;nbsp;&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://forums.autodesk.com/html/@59C40FF4A66238AB63B8D5D30F650901/emoticons/1f609.png" alt=":cara_guiñando_un_ojo:" title=":cara_guiñando_un_ojo:" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Change the Z value in the properties box, it works.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="tramber_0-1689577771048.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1241229i53A6C038746F57E8/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="tramber_0-1689577771048.png" alt="tramber_0-1689577771048.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;About your block ; there is a problem of linetype. Explode it and rebuild&amp;nbsp;&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://forums.autodesk.com/html/@59C40FF4A66238AB63B8D5D30F650901/emoticons/1f609.png" alt=":cara_guiñando_un_ojo:" title=":cara_guiñando_un_ojo:" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 07:10:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>tramber</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-17T07:10:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Looks like your drawing is infested with objects in this case &lt;STRONG&gt;LINES&lt;/STRONG&gt; that are not 100% on 0 elevation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For &lt;STRONG&gt;JOIN 2 Lines:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I used Express Tools &lt;STRONG&gt;FLATTEN&lt;/STRONG&gt; command on both &lt;STRONG&gt;LINES&lt;/STRONG&gt; and then the &lt;STRONG&gt;LINES&lt;/STRONG&gt; joined successfully.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Edit Block in Place:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There's been various threads describing similar problem:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-edit-block-application-reference-missing/td-p/6535265" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/cannot-edit-block-application-reference-missing/td-p/6535265&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?176597-REFEDIT-sending-error-on-saving" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?176597-REFEDIT-sending-error-on-saving&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://zaldy4.rssing.com/chan-32337793/article7.html" target="_blank"&gt;https://zaldy4.rssing.com/chan-32337793/article7.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There's no real good solution other than to use &lt;STRONG&gt;BEDIT&lt;/STRONG&gt; command instead of &lt;STRONG&gt;REFEDIT&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;amp; then &lt;STRONG&gt;ERASE&lt;/STRONG&gt; the &lt;STRONG&gt;LINE&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;amp; recreate a new &lt;STRONG&gt;LINE&lt;/STRONG&gt;, then save the block. Now you can use &lt;STRONG&gt;REFEDIT&lt;/STRONG&gt; on it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 07:15:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>paullimapa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-17T07:15:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The lines would have come from a Sketchup import so never thought to check the precision to that level.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The edit block in place solution will be too time consuming for me. Hopefully the issue will be fixed at some point.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 15:13:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>edezzie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T15:13:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Glad you can now continue with your tasks…cheers!!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 15:14:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>paullimapa</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T15:14:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/691514"&gt;@edezzie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;....&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;On one of them is a block, and I cannot edit it in place. It gives an error.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;....&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Well, the error is:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Command: REFEDIT&lt;BR /&gt;Select reference:&lt;BR /&gt;Errors found in references to other objects:&lt;BR /&gt;** Application reference missing: ACAD, to AcDbLinetypeTableRecord.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So apparently its definition uses a Linetype not available to your AutoCAD.&amp;nbsp; If that's also a Sketchup import, maybe that's the reason.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But I &lt;EM&gt;can&lt;/EM&gt; edit is using &lt;STRONG&gt;BEDIT&lt;/STRONG&gt; rather than REFEDIT.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 15:42:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Kent1Cooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T15:42:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;But its a simple single line in a block.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How do I see the linetypes in the block definition?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there a way to purge a block of all linetypes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:29:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>edezzie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T16:29:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;If I Explode the Block, its one Line shows as ByLayer linetype.&amp;nbsp; All I can think of is that it's some kind of ghost aspect resulting from Sketchup import, something similar to proxy objects from overlay programs when drawings are opened in plain AutoCAD.&amp;nbsp; It does seem to be tied to that Line, though.&amp;nbsp; I find that if I edit it in BEDIT by drawing a new Line over the existing one, Erasing the existing one, even putting the new Line on the same Layer, and closing/saving, I can then Edit it with REFEDIT, without the error.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 17:16:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Kent1Cooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T17:16:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I suppose my issue is that I have a drawing where I have lots of blocks and I need to be able to edit the blocks in place due to the layout and nature of the drawing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cant do this for a lot of the blocks which is a problem.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And I cannot tell which lines within the blocks are the problem lines, and it would take me weeks to redraw all the lines within the problem blocks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 17:42:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>edezzie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T17:42:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/691514"&gt;@edezzie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;...I cant do this for a lot of the blocks which is a problem....&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I suspect&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/69526"&gt;@Kent1Cooper&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and others here may be able to help you with LISP customizations to automate more of the basic needs if you are able to provide a more complex DWG file with dozens of sample "problem" blocks to solve.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:12:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T19:12:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I know next to nothing about Sketchup, and you haven't confirmed whether the Block is a Sketchup import like the Lines you couldn't join.&amp;nbsp; But if that's the case, does Sketchup have any options in exporting, that might avoid the issue?&amp;nbsp; Or is this coming from someone else whom you can ask to try different means of conversion to AutoCAD?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:21:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Kent1Cooper</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T19:21:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why cant I edit a block in place or join two simple lines?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sketchup isnt the cause of the inability to edit the block in place. It thought it might be the cause of the problem with lines I was trying to join being slightly off on the x axis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem with the edit the block is related to leaders. For some reason, some leaders are causing the error but not others, even though I use the same custom leader type in all my drawings.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have been exploding them to get around the issue, and the problem lines are from these leaders.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can probably stop this issue by not using leaders going forward, but it doesn't help me for current drawings.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:45:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>edezzie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-18T19:45:02Z</dc:date>
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