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    <title>tema Betreff: Viewport standard scale wont remember selection en AutoCAD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;thanks &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/71745" target="_self"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;CADffm,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;the sorting is also a mystery to me.&amp;nbsp; When I execute a Reset, the list is all sorted differently.&amp;nbsp; My default list does not appear to be sorted in any intelligible way.&amp;nbsp; The main problem of course is if the viewport is only displaying objects and the current annotation scale but some of them are on Half Scale_1 and others are on HALF SCALE they no longer appear in the viewport.&amp;nbsp; So I find as a dept we're resorting to "show annotative objects - always"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="scale list.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/994934i3D46337EF1AC08C5/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="scale list.png" alt="scale list.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 17:58:42 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>sgauthier</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-11-29T17:58:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Viewport standard scale wont remember selection</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am spending an increasing amount of time deleting non standard drawing scales from drawing files.&amp;nbsp; Currently I have "Half Size", "Half Size_1" and "HALF SIZE" scales in the drawing.&amp;nbsp; I find the two viewports with standard scale set to "Half Size_1" and change them to "Half Size".&amp;nbsp; Trying this with multiple viewports selected and scaling through the drop down list in the properties window will often just crash ACAD.&amp;nbsp; So I select and change one at a time but it will revert back to "Half Size_1" as though ACAD can't distinguish between the all caps or "_1" versions.&amp;nbsp; I'm forced to set anno/standard scales to 3"=1'-0" to get the change to stick then can go a delete the bad half scales.&amp;nbsp; Is anyone else experiencing these same frustrations and have any workarounds or advice?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:23:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sgauthier</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T13:23:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Viewport standard scale wont remember selection</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/viewport-standard-scale-wont-remember-selection/m-p/10788451#M1067193</link>
      <description>&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;...I am spending an increasing amount of time deleting non standard drawing scales ...&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&lt;BR /&gt;If I may ask, why are you wasting your time doing that? These are showing up from your copy/paste and XREF actions from other files, no where else.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:00:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T16:00:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Viewport standard scale wont remember selection</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you know the scale names in question, you can change the sort-order of scales in your dwg.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Acad searchs (in this case) for the right scale-factor , not the name - for example 1Unit=2Units instead the name like "1:2" or "1:2_1" and so on.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In _SCALELISTEDIT you can move the unwanted scale down the list,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;this way AutoCAD find "your" anno scale first and use this scale.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But don't forget to change all annotative objects which refere to the "wrong" scale to the good one&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and delete the unwanted scale.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:42:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T16:42:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Viewport standard scale wont remember selection</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/viewport-standard-scale-wont-remember-selection/m-p/10788699#M1067211</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yup, like when IT "asks did you try turning it on and off again?" I'm always cautioning users about what they are bringing in to their drawing files.&amp;nbsp; Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 17:48:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sgauthier</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T17:48:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Viewport standard scale wont remember selection</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/viewport-standard-scale-wont-remember-selection/m-p/10788735#M1067212</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;thanks &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/71745" target="_self"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;CADffm,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;the sorting is also a mystery to me.&amp;nbsp; When I execute a Reset, the list is all sorted differently.&amp;nbsp; My default list does not appear to be sorted in any intelligible way.&amp;nbsp; The main problem of course is if the viewport is only displaying objects and the current annotation scale but some of them are on Half Scale_1 and others are on HALF SCALE they no longer appear in the viewport.&amp;nbsp; So I find as a dept we're resorting to "show annotative objects - always"&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="scale list.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/994934i3D46337EF1AC08C5/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="scale list.png" alt="scale list.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 17:58:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/viewport-standard-scale-wont-remember-selection/m-p/10788735#M1067212</guid>
      <dc:creator>sgauthier</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T17:58:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Betreff: Viewport standard scale wont remember selection</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/viewport-standard-scale-wont-remember-selection/m-p/10788832#M1067214</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;"the sorting is also a mystery to me."&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Easy, the order is the creation order {new created/imported to the top}&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;or what a user set as last as order by scalelistedit&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;or the order of your system scale list (which is also a user editable list, OPTIONS / User preferences / [..scale list..] &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;This is a real SYSTEM-list, saved in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Autodesk\AutoCAD.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;(My) simple rule: If you don't know why and how, don't touch it.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;If you know why and how, keep standards original, don't change the name or definition,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;don't use different scale names with the same definition side by side &lt;EM&gt;(your first issue in&amp;nbsp; question is the perfect answer "why")&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;"When I execute a Reset, the list is all sorted differently. "&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Like the order of your System scale list.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;"My default list does not appear to be sorted in any intelligible way."&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Should be&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;1. 1:1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;2. your scales..in your order&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;3. the rest of the system default list.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;"The main problem of course is if the viewport is only displaying objects and the current annotation scale"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Yes, but in your post above you are talking about viewport standard scale ONLY.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;In this case Pendean was right (i hate this unclean way, ignoring instead to make your files clean.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;So, you also have annotation object refer to these unwanted scales, than you have to do more,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;"but some of them are on Half Scale_1 and others are on HALF SCALE"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;I f ACAD created this ()new) name in your file, the scale definition is different you the other scale.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;"they no longer appear in the viewport. "&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Sure. Swap the scales and delete the unwanted*&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;"So I find as a dept we're resorting to "show annotative objects - always"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;for working with files from outside, not a bad choice.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 18:23:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cadffm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T18:23:29Z</dc:date>
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