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Generative Design Outcome Cost Estimation

dvd.mlm — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 19:06:18 GMT

Generative Design Outcome Cost Estimation was announced in our October roadmap update.

In summary, using anticipated annual production volume as an input, you now get insights to the anticipated part cost. This allows for more thoughtful trade-off analysis when evaluating cost and performance using generative design.

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Re: Generative Design Outcome Cost Estimation - Status changed to: Under Review

dvd.mlm — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 19:10:45 GMT

Re: Generative Design Outcome Cost Estimation

SteveCox3D — Thu, 12 Dec 2019 10:49:04 GMT

Now that aPriori cost estimation is formally part of the Generative Design options it would be good if the material library indicated which materials are supported for cost generation. Whilst in preview I got multiple warnings in the Pre-check area that the materials that I'd chosen were not supported for cost estimation.

If cost analysis is an important parts of the evaluation phase of a Generative Design I would want to ensure I pick a full range of seven materials that are supported for that functionality. At the moment it is guesswork as to which materials will work with this new function

Re: Generative Design Outcome Cost Estimation

dvd.mlm — Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:15:55 GMT

Hi @SteveCox3D,

See this help article below and jump to the section about "Fusion 360 - aPriori material mapping".

https://help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU/?guid=Fusion_GenerativeDesign_concepts_cost_estimation_html

We are working on additional future improvements here.

David

Re: Generative Design Outcome Cost Estimation

janusl — Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:36:21 GMT

Thanks Steve. Would you prefer to keep both the pre-check and a kind of “label” for supported materials for costing or replacing the pre-check with the “label” ?

PS

Currently, you can find a full list of supported materials for costing in the Help: http://help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU/?guid=Fusion_GenerativeDesign_concepts_cost_estimation_html

Re: Generative Design Outcome Cost Estimation

SteveCox3D — Thu, 12 Dec 2019 19:14:55 GMT

Thanks David, it's good to see that list.

I was thinking of an idea where in the Material selection dropdown there's a check-box to select "Cost Estimation" of the study, which would then automatically filter the material list to only those which are supported for this function.

Reading that help article though has pointed out that supported materials are also mapped to the manufacturing method, so I'm not sure then how you'd avoid a pre-check warning example of "AlSi10Mg is not supported for Die-casting. The manufacturing cost will not be generated".

I have a mindset for a Generative study that I want to be seeing either a green tick or a minimal number of amber warnings in the pre-check icon to maximise my chances of a successful outcome. The aPriori cost estimation has dramatically increased the number of amber warnings I'm seeing which may mean I miss something more important, which is what has prompted my post about trying to improve the situation.

Best regards, Steve

Re: Generative Design Outcome Cost Estimation

SC_Precision — Tue, 04 May 2021 18:01:57 GMT

I am extremely interested in learning more about this function but find nothing to get kicked off, and nothing on YouTube even. When attempting to give it a try, I get garbage (which , according to the famous saying - "garbage in garbage out!". How do I learn not to put the "garbage in"? Thanks for any advice! (I don't think the xometry add-in is appropriate but is that the default now and not apriori? I don't think xometry will allow me to cost analyse certain features I program in Manufacturing. I want to start from a casting, and come up with a cost for the machined part. I believe from what I see xometry can quote a casting OR a machined part (?). THANKS!