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    <title>topic Re: Newbie - Black holes(spots) while modeling in 3ds Max Modeling Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;It is difficult to determine what the issue is from the images - it could possibly be :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;a.) inconsistent smoothing groups (light/shadow respond differently on mixed smoothing groups)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;b.) there are floating faces i.e. the faces are not connected at the edges&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;c.) a shadow caused by height in the model&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;those are my guesses.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:12:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>blakestone</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-07-28T23:12:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Newbie - Black holes(spots) while modeling</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6461683#M16781</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Not really expierenced with the program and I've encountered this so called "problem". Basically when I start modeling some basic shapes and then render them i get this black opening that isn't there in the first place. I can't seem to figure why is this thing shown on my render window. When I &amp;nbsp;try to look around the shape I just cannot find it. Why &lt;SPAN&gt;is this occuring? (&lt;SPAN&gt;1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- rendered) (&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; - bottom) (&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- surface above)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/258157iA63869A4C4D8681F/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="3.jpg" title="3.jpg" /&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/258149i1B72EFF042A40852/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="2.JPG" title="2.JPG" align="right" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/258146i8E148D65DAA77D2D/image-size/original?v=v2&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="1.JPG" title="1.JPG" width="437" height="221" align="left" /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 07:28:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-27T07:28:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Newbie - Black holes(spots) while modeling</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6465939#M16782</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It is difficult to determine what the issue is from the images - it could possibly be :&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;a.) inconsistent smoothing groups (light/shadow respond differently on mixed smoothing groups)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;b.) there are floating faces i.e. the faces are not connected at the edges&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;c.) a shadow caused by height in the model&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;those are my guesses.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:12:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6465939#M16782</guid>
      <dc:creator>blakestone</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-28T23:12:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Newbie - Black holes(spots) while modeling</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6466007#M16783</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;@Anonymous﻿,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I'd like to help with your normal/shading issue in the viewport. &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1273707"&gt;@blakestone﻿&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;has some good ideas about this in his post, and I wanted to offer 1 or 2 more possible solutions. &amp;nbsp;(Smoothing groups is a good bet, kudos to&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1273707"&gt;@blakestone﻿&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;If you select the faces of your model and press the button below, does it seem to fix the issue? &amp;nbsp;If not, it may be due to topology.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/258827iD40351EA6993D755/image-size/original?v=v2&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="Make Planar.png" title="Make Planar.png" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Typically we want to keep topology (edge flow) in quads or lower. &amp;nbsp;You don't need to do that until the end really, but having 5+ sided polygons can often create some weird shading artifacts in the viewport, often due to smoothing groups or vertex placement and edge overlapping. &amp;nbsp;Please keep me posted!&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Best Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:56:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6466007#M16783</guid>
      <dc:creator>Alfred.DeFlaminis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-28T23:56:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Newbie - Black holes(spots) while modeling</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6467698#M16784</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello @Anonymous﻿,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Did this work out for you?&amp;nbsp; I just wanted to follow up and see if your issue is resolved or has made any progress.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for keeping me posted!&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Best Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2016 18:30:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6467698#M16784</guid>
      <dc:creator>Alfred.DeFlaminis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-29T18:30:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Newbie - Black holes(spots) while modeling</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6472451#M16785</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm sorry I have been away for a few days. But yes with your suggestion i fixed my problem. Thanks alot.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2016 09:02:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6472451#M16785</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-02T09:02:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Newbie - Black holes(spots) while modeling</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6473916#M16786</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;@Anonymous﻿,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;No need to be sorry! I'm glad it worked out. &amp;nbsp;Thank you for keep me posted and best of luck on your building model. &amp;nbsp;If there is anything else you need, just let me know!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2016 18:27:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-modeling-forum/newbie-black-holes-spots-while-modeling/m-p/6473916#M16786</guid>
      <dc:creator>Alfred.DeFlaminis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-02T18:27:34Z</dc:date>
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