https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/max-2016-problem-selecting-geometry-with-edit-patch-on-top-of/m-p/5701312#M86603 Deselect Window/Crossing (main toolbar, next to Select and Move). As before, area-selection works perfectly here, in all 4 viewports, whether the object is partially or completely covered by the selection area. Box + Turn to Patch (which you didn't mention earlier!) + Edit Patch. <BR /> Also, check your Preferences, General tab, "Window/Crossing by Direction" just in case. Wed, 01 Jul 2015 11:12:52 GMT Steve_Curley 2015-07-01T11:12:52Z