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    <title>topic Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor in 3ds Max Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;and welcome to the community,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;As &lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1058980"&gt;@rendermaster&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;noted, if Vray isn't the current renderer it will render those vray materials as a flat gray color with no shading.&amp;nbsp; You might check to make sure that Vray is the current material editor renderer.&amp;nbsp; If it is and the problem persists, you should contact Chaosgroup as Vray is a 3rd party plugin.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Best Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:05:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Alfred.DeFlaminis</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-10-16T18:05:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7039223#M60514</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm having a very weird issue with the latest version of Vray for Max 2017. If I have an object selected, and I open the Vray material editor,&amp;nbsp;the material that is applied to whatever object I have selected disappears from the editor. Meaning it just turns into flat grey v-ray material, and all my settings are gone. If I hit Ctrl+Z the material will reappear, but it's extremely frustrating and annoying to deal with. If I open the Vray material editor with no objects selected, a random material will disappear from the editor. I have to hit Ctrl+Z every time I open the editor and it's an extra step I shouldn't have to take.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What's worse, occasionally materials will disappear from the scene itself. So I'll be working, and if I have multiple materials applied to different objects in a group, the entire group of objects will turn grey and I lose all of my materials.&amp;nbsp;Crtrl+Z does not help in this case. When this happens, I have to &amp;nbsp;hope that I saved the file recently before this happened and reopen it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anyone else had this happen to them? Is it some weird bug? Does this bug have a fix? Any info is appreciated, thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:26:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7039223#M60514</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-24T22:26:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7039600#M60515</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;did you already assigned vray as your default render engine.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 05:20:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rendermaster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-25T05:20:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7042291#M60516</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, thank you forr responding. Yes, the renderer is set to V-Ray. Only one material disappears at a time, and it doesn't go to black like when you switch from the V-Ray renderer to scanline, I just lose all of my material properties and it reverts to a flat grey V-Ray material.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2017 00:25:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-26T00:25:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7085394#M60517</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;and welcome to the community,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;This is really strange, no doubt about it. &amp;nbsp;I have three main suggestions here.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;1) Try &lt;A href="https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/3ds-max/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Resetting-3ds-Max-3ds-Max-Design.html" target="_blank"&gt;resetting your user settings&lt;/A&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Perhaps they are corrupted somehow. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2) Download Vray and reinstall, perhaps this was a problem that has been addressed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3) Possibly your Windows User Account is corrupted. &amp;nbsp;This is probably not it, but you can test by making a new user in Windows and trying again. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Can you please try those things for me? &amp;nbsp;Thanks!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2017 21:13:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Alfred.DeFlaminis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-15T21:13:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7088169#M60518</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;@Anonymous,&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I just wanted to follow up here, any thoughts on my previous post or the helpful post by&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1058980"&gt;@rendermaster&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2017 22:00:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Alfred.DeFlaminis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-16T22:00:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7318018#M60519</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello everybody...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Simons&lt;BR /&gt;I've got just the same problem that you have. it turns grey and I think also loses the assigned relation to the objects. I'm new to max And 3ds max has this problem with V-ray Material editor... when I switch the material editor to MtlRay (default) it works fine ... looks sth is wrong with the V-ray. I'm using 3ds max 2017 and V-ray 3.40.03 installed on windows 10.&lt;BR /&gt;Many thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2017 07:21:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-22T07:21:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7460974#M60520</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Alfred,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am also having this problem as well. Has anyone found a solution?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ana&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2017 04:58:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-15T04:58:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;just check if your render engine is in vray, if not your material editor will turn into grey..set first your render engine to vray&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2017 11:41:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rendermaster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-15T11:41:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;and welcome to the community,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As &lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1058980"&gt;@rendermaster&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;noted, if Vray isn't the current renderer it will render those vray materials as a flat gray color with no shading.&amp;nbsp; You might check to make sure that Vray is the current material editor renderer.&amp;nbsp; If it is and the problem persists, you should contact Chaosgroup as Vray is a 3rd party plugin.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="renderer.png" style="width: 461px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/413607i1135D1651B937F8F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="renderer.png" alt="renderer.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best Regards,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:05:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Alfred.DeFlaminis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-16T18:05:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/7612883#M60523</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;I found a solution for my issue and it's simple and weird.&lt;BR /&gt;it might solve your problem too&lt;BR /&gt;I tried all the solutions that our friends here recommended them such as setting default render engine, etc.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;But&amp;nbsp;accidentally&amp;nbsp;I realized that opening the v-ray material editor using it's "dedicated toolbar icon" creates this malfunction.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I prevented this issue by simply just &lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;FONT size="3" color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;opening the material editor&amp;nbsp;via&amp;nbsp;pressing "M" shortcut key on the keyboard&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Apparently this is a UI mistake/error.&lt;BR /&gt;I hope this trick works for you too...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Best regards&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:10:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-12-11T09:10:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much!! That ended up fixing&amp;nbsp;the issue! &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:34:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-12-11T18:34:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wow...that is so simple, and it DOES fix the issue. Thank you so much for sharing, very much appreciated!!!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 19:36:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-02-28T19:36:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;WHAT! HOW!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bloody weird but this worked.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't thank you enough.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 19:38:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-24T19:38:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3DS Max 2017 Vray - materials turn grey when I open material editor</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2017-vray-materials-turn-grey-when-i-open-material/m-p/10150126#M60527</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey all, this is WAY late in the game...only 4 years later, for some reason I never received notifications for this post and randomly got a notification two days ago even though the last reply was in 2018...weird! Anyway, I never did get to try any fixes, just eventually moved onto later versions of software and the issue sorted itself out. I'm willing to bet the "M" key was short for "Magic" though based on others' comments &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😄&lt;/span&gt; Thanks for the responses and I'm so sorry I didn't get to capitalize on the great suggestions here!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:26:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-11T23:26:43Z</dc:date>
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