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3dsmax 2020

contact — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 08:43:40 GMT

Hello,

I just received the link to download the 2020 version but strangely I do not see any information on the subject. Autodesk did not communicate on the release of this version?
There is the help page but it is not very rich in information:

http://help.autodesk.com/view/3DSMAX/2020/ENU/?guid=GUID-2958CAB3-3C80-40AF-969E-BF23AB4296A5
Do you have more info on what's new?

Pierre

Re: 3dsmax 2020

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:16:10 GMT

same here!

I got an email this morning telling me that a new release 2020 is available for download. On the Autodesk products and service page it only goes to 2019 still. what up did the Autodesk get ahead of themselves?

Re: 3dsmax 2020

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:20:06 GMT

Received same message, downloaded and installed.

Here is the list of whats new : ....

Re: 3dsmax 2020

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:22:03 GMT

@Anonymous Are you on subscription or maintenance?

Re: 3dsmax 2020

camille4TTPC — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:42:39 GMT

News for max2020

Imrpoved chamfer

Improved osl

Thank you autodesk...

Re: 3dsmax 2020

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:46:34 GMT

@contact What service plane are you on? I am on maintenance. I'm wondering it that is the issue? Maintenance you own the software and subscription you rent. Maybe my version has not yet been release yet because Autodesk assumed everyone would be on subscription by now.

Re: 3dsmax 2020

contact — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:50:33 GMT

I was in maintenance and now I'm in subscription .

Here is some info from evermotion :

https://evermotion.org/articles/show/11388/autodesk-3ds-max-2020-new-features

Pierre

Re: 3dsmax 2020

Daf — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:54:13 GMT

Got the same e-mail, but nothing in downloads yet (I'm on maintenance - there are still quite a few of us out there 😉 ). Sometimes it takes a bit for it to show up, it was that way last year, too - probably by end of day.

Re: 3dsmax 2020

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 10:01:11 GMT

that what I thought. thanks @Daf

Re: 3dsmax 2020

TMat — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 10:23:50 GMT

Wow, reading those new features and I now actually feel physically depressed.

Re: 3dsmax 2020

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 10:28:46 GMT

I am really hopeful view port tear off will be included!

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Ihno — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 10:47:45 GMT

I downloaded it and it seems the whats new list is complete actually...
I'm still on maintenance btw.

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Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:06:15 GMT

I would love to know how you downloaded it @Ihno

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Ihno — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:11:56 GMT

There is a 2020 box in my account. Right above the one of 2019.
I think it was the same when 2019 was released. For some reason it takes a while to enable it for all users. I think you'll have access tomorrow or in a few hours. You're not missing a lot though. As I said, the whats new list says it all.

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Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:41:40 GMT

I was just on a chat with support and he said it was a sinking issue. Should be a couple hours. Shoot I wonder what the hold up is on the view port tear off. Every other program out there has this ability. Bummer

Thanks

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ethanAZBRK — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:42:11 GMT

Same, 2020 downloadbox available in Belgium as well.

This has got to be a 1st April release, no? I'm pretty sure it is, the list is a JOKE.

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DarrenP — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:59:47 GMT

they really didn’t add much to 2020 did they?

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TMat — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:05:25 GMT

Even as a point release this would look pathetic.

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Anonymous — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:06:19 GMT

You guys are depressing me. The one thing that I look forward to each year.

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Out-Of-Light — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:24:57 GMT

I am really hoping this isn't it, and that ADSK are still updating these pages...

I've browsed through the new features/bug fixes and been left completely under whelmed (again!)...

Go back and look at the what's new and bug fixes over the last 8 years... see the reduction each year, and compare that to today’s announcement, and also compare that to the amount of development and integration that still goes into Maya each year.

Over the last 3 years maintenance subscription has doubled in price, yet we get a lot less for our money. ADSK products no longer make good business sense. Paying a lot more for a lot less... You get a lot more development than this in a quarterly V-ray update, and new features that are exciting and actually useful!

I've said it before, and I will say it again. ADSK have their fingers in too many pies. Their software portfolio is way to large now for their development teams to cope with ( many of them downsized/merged or axed a few years back), and the development butter is now stretched so thinly over their software portfolio toast, that the end result is this offering of new feature/bug fixes “CRUMBS” to the customer each year.

You could argue that when software becomes so refined, and does pretty much everything it asked to do, there is very little that's needed to be done development wise, but if that's the case, why are we being forced to pay twice the price than 3 years ago for a maintenance and upgrade subscription that gives us a lot less each year for the money? Shouldn't these cuts in development teams, admin staff, web automation, and a few crumbs of new features be tricking down to the customers in the way of reduced pricing instead of extortionate price hikes that are set to continue each year? I'd say we should be looking at an 80% discount this year, and NOT to switch over to the even more extortionately priced desktop rental ( for the same products and services) and loose our perpetual licences in the process! But of course that's never going to happen when ADSK now care more about its investors than customer opinion.

When you compare ADSK's media and entertainment software to the completion, it starting to look like ADSK are now standing still development wise...

I think if this really is it for the 2020 release, ADSK will loose even more of their long term customers, and see a greater fall in the amount of seats renewed. Its a shame, as 3ds max was one of the products that originally put AutoDesk on the map, but development seems to be “back of the queue” now, and their industrial software suites are what make them the real money now, and Maya is seen as the choice software for movies which is also big money, but so is architecture/ product viz and gaming which sometimes have much greater development costs than today’s blockbusters.

I've been saying since 2017 that my 2019 payment coming up this September will be my last, taking me to the 2021 release, and I see nothing to change my mind today. When I was paying around the £400-£500 inc tax a few year ago for the same software subscription, I saw this as a reasonable price for the slow amount of development we get ear year, but the last 3 years when its time to renew, I am left feeling ripped off and a very bitter taste lingering, regretting that I chose to learn 3ds max back in 2001 instead of another DCC application…

Subscription services are supposed to offer value for the money, but this ideal has clearly strayed from the path with ADSK, and I think their greed really will be their undoing at least on the M&E side, and customers will switch to cheaper, faster moving ( non ADSK) alternatives soon if ADSK don’t get back on track, but I also think this is due to the people running the show at the top changing so frequently now, and that their attitude is to make as much money as they can while they can for the investors and themselves, meaning they don’t have the incentive to care about the long term future of the company, only their investment funds and moving on to the next big venture or a very cosy retirement… and the worst thing is that these investors are blind to it, and think that these fortune spinners actually know what they are doing in these quarterly meetings, and have the longevity and growth of the company at heart, not their own make a quick kill personal financial gains…

When customers complain about the lack of new development the last few years, we are told that there is no longer a big one off release each year and that new features will be added with update packs throughout the year, but I have never once thought to myself, wow that was worth paying twice the price from 3 years ago when these update packs do eventually turn up...

At this point the only announcement that could see me staying as an ADSK customer after 17 years of investing in their products ( time and money) is the one where ADSK say that maintenance is going back to 2015 prices, and a huge apology from top management for fouling all over the name of a company that was once regarded as one of the best in the industry by its customers, but on the M&E side of ADSK, customer positivity is at an all time low, and has been for a few years now, mainly due to a list of countless broken (edited) promises over the years, bug ridden/unstable new releases, or no development at all( mainly due to the restructuring mess and taking on more software apps than they can chew) and prices that no longer reflect any value whatsoever, especially in contrast to what customers actually get out of it each year now. What’s coming next year? A logo change and another 30% price hike next year?

Enough really!

R.I.P. ADSK…