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    <title>topic 3ds Max 2023 crashes with XRefs in 3ds Max Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello everyone,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm having problems loading files in all versions of 3ds Max 2023 (vanilla, 2023.1, 2023.2, 2023.2.2) and all versions follow the same pattern, and I can recreate the problem on multiple computers under different conditions (files loaded from either network or local drives, compressed .max files or not).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot share any file due to confidentiality, but here's a rundown of my working set-up: I have a set of aircraft components (fuselage, wings, cockpit, landing gear) that are loaded into scenes using XRefs. These components are quite large (around 3GB of data of compressed Max files, plus a few hundred MBs of textures).&lt;BR /&gt;In other scenes, in addition to the aircraft I load airports and terrain, still as XRefs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Scenes take a while to load, but this system has worked well ever since 3ds Max 2014, up to 3ds Max 2022.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The error:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I open 3ds Max 2023 and try to load one of the heavier scenes (aircraft, terrain, airport): the program crashes, every single time: "An error has occurred and the application will now close". Trying to load the backed-up scene ends with the same error.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now, I reopen 3ds Max 2023 and load a simple scene (aircraft only); the scene loads. I then load the heavier scene, the heavier scene loads correctly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm kinda stumped on why this is happening, previous versions of 3ds Max never behaved like this. I'd would be almost fine if each scene didn't take 5 minutes to load, or that this loading problem is actively preventing me to use Deadline for network rendering: 3ds Max crashes on load, and Deadline flags the job as failed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The log file doesn't show anything, the last two lines are about loading the file and about Populate data. I attached both log and minidump to this post.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've also opened another thread that might be related to this but haven't received a reply yet:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2023-2-can-t-read-read-write-file-max/td-p/11440531" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2023-2-can-t-read-read-write-file-max/td-p/11440531&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2022 05:31:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>briareos_kerensky</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-09-29T05:31:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>3ds Max 2023 crashes with XRefs</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2023-crashes-with-xrefs/m-p/11451403#M10472</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello everyone,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm having problems loading files in all versions of 3ds Max 2023 (vanilla, 2023.1, 2023.2, 2023.2.2) and all versions follow the same pattern, and I can recreate the problem on multiple computers under different conditions (files loaded from either network or local drives, compressed .max files or not).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot share any file due to confidentiality, but here's a rundown of my working set-up: I have a set of aircraft components (fuselage, wings, cockpit, landing gear) that are loaded into scenes using XRefs. These components are quite large (around 3GB of data of compressed Max files, plus a few hundred MBs of textures).&lt;BR /&gt;In other scenes, in addition to the aircraft I load airports and terrain, still as XRefs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Scenes take a while to load, but this system has worked well ever since 3ds Max 2014, up to 3ds Max 2022.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The error:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I open 3ds Max 2023 and try to load one of the heavier scenes (aircraft, terrain, airport): the program crashes, every single time: "An error has occurred and the application will now close". Trying to load the backed-up scene ends with the same error.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now, I reopen 3ds Max 2023 and load a simple scene (aircraft only); the scene loads. I then load the heavier scene, the heavier scene loads correctly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm kinda stumped on why this is happening, previous versions of 3ds Max never behaved like this. I'd would be almost fine if each scene didn't take 5 minutes to load, or that this loading problem is actively preventing me to use Deadline for network rendering: 3ds Max crashes on load, and Deadline flags the job as failed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The log file doesn't show anything, the last two lines are about loading the file and about Populate data. I attached both log and minidump to this post.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've also opened another thread that might be related to this but haven't received a reply yet:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2023-2-can-t-read-read-write-file-max/td-p/11440531" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2023-2-can-t-read-read-write-file-max/td-p/11440531&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2022 05:31:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>briareos_kerensky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-09-29T05:31:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 3ds Max 2023 crashes with XRefs</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2023-crashes-with-xrefs/m-p/11548187#M10473</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Bump for help...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:58:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/3ds-max-forum/3ds-max-2023-crashes-with-xrefs/m-p/11548187#M10473</guid>
      <dc:creator>briareos_kerensky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-12T16:58:46Z</dc:date>
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